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Sam OCX
02-01-2011, 12:58
As the 478 experts know, there are 3 types of s478 Pentium 4 2.4GHz Northwood:
"A" model - 100x24, no HT (often referred to as vanilla, i.e. without the "A" letter)
"B" model - 133x18, no HT
"C" model - 200x12, with HT
There have never been any hybrid (133x18 with HT or 200x12 w/o HT) models.

As I can understand from here (http://hwbot.org/browseHardwareProcessors.do?cpuSubFamilyId=16), this (http://hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=CPU_333) is the "A" category, this (http://hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=CPU_1424) is the "B" and this (http://hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=CPU_1425) is the "C", right?

If yes, then a lot of scores need moving.

1. From the P4 2.4 "A" (x24 multi) to P4 2.4 "B" (x18 multi) category:
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/2096976_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1000729_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/937724_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/802950_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/555626_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/939637_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1081962_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/921064_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/829835_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/961446_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/966663_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/904436_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/776578_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/803881_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/696253_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/788585_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/934588_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/731048_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/688723_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/878926_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/687264_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/954656_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/965040_

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/973005_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/721698_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/772565_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/937733_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1096478_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/961497_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/776591_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1082124_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/966618_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/954642_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/803863_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/788567_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/965044_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/688897_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/687180_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/714346_

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1096512_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/776546_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1082119_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/954606_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/934028_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/961547_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/878994_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/855623_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/966640_

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/937726_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/627127_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1096477_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/688550_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/966256_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1082121_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/954631_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/934045_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/788565_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1062165_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/878927_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/731050_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/880076_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/855621_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/965043_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/859727_

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1096330_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1081976_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/937730_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/966194_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/965883_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/688537_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/776592_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/801310_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/914646_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/934062_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/788568_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/968200_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/973006_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/934062_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/731053_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/803861_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/859728_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1062142_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/878929_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/965047_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/855630_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/567636_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/954651_

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/973010_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1082120_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/966579_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/966614_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/776544_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/801309_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/934064_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/914647_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/803862_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1062237_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/878947_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/855626_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/954486_

2. From the P4 2.4 "A" (x24 multi) to P4 2.4 "C" (x12 multi) category:
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/711373_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/889759_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/889817_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/889758_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/889763_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/890229_

3. From the P4 2.4 "B" (x18 multi) to P4 2.4 "C" (x12 multi) category:
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/791653_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/795785_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/978111_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/798070_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/798273_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/878045_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/805716_

4. From the P4 2.4 "B" (x18 multi) to P4 2.4 "A" (x24 multi) category:
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/576443_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1077740_

5. From the P4 2.4 "C" (x12 multi) to P4 2.4 "A" (x24 multi) category:
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/927306_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/927305_

6. And these are just the scores with stock frequency completely mismatched:
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1007720_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/963921_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/852732_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/852741_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/852738_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/678119_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1079434_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1079435_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1079436_
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1079437_

Also, I want to suggest to rename all three P4 2.4 Northwood categories from Pentium 4 2.4 GHz B Northwood
Pentium 4 2.4 GHz C Northwood (HT)
Pentium 4 2.4 GHz NorthwoodtoPentium 4 2.4GHz Northwood (100 FSB)
Pentium 4 2.4GHz Northwood (133 FSB)
Pentium 4 2.4GHz Northwood (200 FSB)Reasons being:
1. Stock FSB / Multi being the clear difference between models
2. I've been buying/looking for s478 chips recently - if even most of the PC builders/recyclers can't answer "is it an A/B/C?" question, then normal users will be confused either. Division by stock FSB will be much easier for them to understand which model they have.

Sam OCX
02-01-2011, 13:02
there's a similar thing that needs to be done renaming 2.6/2.8 northwoods too:
2.6 comes only as 100 FSB (x26, no HT) and 200 FSB (x13, with HT) - get rid of the letters and (HT) in the CPU category name and grade them by FSB
2.8 comes as 100 FSB (x28, no HT), 133 FSB (x21, no HT) and 200 FSB (x14, with HT) - not the four models we have in the list now

If moderators approve but don't have time then, given temporary rights, I can move the scores to categories they belong ... have too much free time and nothing to bench ATM

Turrican
02-01-2011, 13:17
yeah, it's a big mess in those catgories.

knopflerbruce
02-19-2011, 00:31
Bumpetybump. I suggest we use the names suggested by Tapakah (with MHz after the FSB numbers), but maybe add the rev. number too, in case people separate these chips that way.

I can move scores, but I want to be sure I'm doing the right thing - can you confirm this, Karl?:)

Turrican
02-19-2011, 09:35
yeah i think the best would be to write both, so people don't get confused. :)

Sam OCX
03-05-2011, 13:21
still nothing ?

knopflerbruce
03-05-2011, 17:53
Needed to do some uni related stuff I'll do this late next week :) This will take a little while :p

knopflerbruce
03-13-2011, 02:16
I'll do this tomorrow :) need some sleep, this will take a while:p

knopflerbruce
03-14-2011, 13:35
Done.

Turrican
03-14-2011, 13:46
ok, i'll rename the categories later proberly.