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Need a section just for this board? What about ASUS? MSI? EVGA? This seems a little silly to me.
Hondacity
03-19-2011, 02:34
its not even retail... i agree with maxi...
I think the idea is that the more publicity the board is given the more likely they are to make more dedicated OC boards.
Hondacity
03-19-2011, 08:09
I think the idea is that the more publicity the board is given the more likely they are to make more dedicated OC boards.
i didn't see it that way..lol
Asus, evga and msi can all have a dedicated section as well. They only need to make a dedicated oc board :-)
I forgot that Gigabyte is the first (and only if I read well) manufacturer to create a board with OC features :D
knopflerbruce
03-20-2011, 23:02
I dunno, but what about other, OC related stuff? Like afterburner, lightning series, etc. I'd say those things are just as OC related as the gigabyte mobo. A section for Lightning overclocking would be cool, and maybe some afterburner subforum. Maybe that one wont be that active, but it would be a good source of information about releases etc.
Christian Ney
03-20-2011, 23:16
Memory series, there are a lot that aim more overclockers than gamers.
AMD Black Editions CPUs
Intel K series CPUs (Xtreme series is too expensive to be an overclocking stuff :D), Cedar Mills ?
knopflerbruce
03-21-2011, 11:12
Cedar mills aren't "made for overclockers". K-chips, maybe - as they're advertized as being for overclockers. Black Edition... dunno, but I dont really think so.
Memory series, there are a lot that aim more overclockers than gamers.
Nah. Don't let the sticker 'overclock power' fool you :p
Christian Ney
03-21-2011, 11:32
Corsair memory designed for OverClocking and to comb your hair :D (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/corsair_launches_memory_kit_designed_overclocking_ contests)
Hondacity
03-25-2011, 20:45
Subforum exists for gigaboys for this week 3/25/11.
I wonder if we'll see this board next week.
Collin said mid-March in the video.
Just looking at results for 2d/3d for this board.
ES-CPU's probably sent out with board to gigaboys.
I wonder if buyers will beat these ES-CPU ran scores, probability says, you guessed it.
Marketting ES-CPU's are awesome.
This week is still yours gigaboys
Massman... this board still isn't in retail, how did you buy one a....month? ago?
I didn't buy it one month ago. I said I was going to buy it.
I'm pretty excited about this board ... so excited I've already decided to go out and buy a retail sample :D
I mis-interpreted, sorry :)
Yes. The decision to 'go out and buy a retail sample' has already been taken in the past. Seems like my shitty English made someone upset. Let's change it to:
"so excited I've already decided that I will go out and buy a retail sample"
"so excited I've already decided that I will go out and buy a retail sample" (when it's available)
:D
"so excited I've already decided that I will go out and buy a retail sample" (IF it gets available)fixed :D
-sigh-
(impossible on this forum, just impossible)
Hondacity
03-29-2011, 18:07
ES-Statement:
(im guessing)
Maybe Gigabyte said "shit 2nd Gen P67 Boards are selling like pancakes. We won't make that much money with X58A-OC."
Christian Ney
03-29-2011, 18:20
ES(Engineering Sample) + statement ;)
Hondacity
03-29-2011, 22:59
editted
Oh. Dunno, wouldn't make sense not to go through with it now. They don't expect the OC to yield high sales (compared to mainstream) and already put in so much R&D cost in it.
Not releasing it would just be throwing money out the window.
Foxconn Dreadnought and Asus PinoNoir come to mind..... it does happen sometimes, but I don't think the X58A-OC is going to be an example of hyped-> canned
HiCookie posted this on his Facebook: http://mb.zol.com.cn/slide/222/2227113_1.html#show
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/190292_1836654348869_1015771002_2107400_1890350_n. jpg
This looks like a retail board: right heatsink orange DIMM holders and grey SATA port.
Christian Ney
03-30-2011, 10:01
Foxconn Dreadnought and Asus PinoNoir come to mind..... it does happen sometimes, but I don't think the X58A-OC is going to be an example of hyped-> canned
Asus PinotNoir ;)
And the Asus Marine Cool too :D
Lsdmeasap
03-30-2011, 20:05
HiCookie posted this on his Facebook: http://mb.zol.com.cn/slide/222/2227113_1.html#show
This looks like a retail board: right heatsink orange DIMM holders and grey SATA port.
Why did they shorten the NB heatsink on the memory side?
I could see maybe making it smaller for more room in the CPU socket area, but they didn't need to shorten the width towards the memory because nothing goes there.
The silver metal sticking out under the NB stands out like a sore thumb :(
I know looks aren't everything and this does not affect the OC-ability, but still.... Hopefully that will at least be painted black in the final retail revision.
Hondacity
03-31-2011, 08:19
i guess its really lunching...
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5/hondacity25/71dd68ed.png
Christian Ney
03-31-2011, 09:03
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/190292_1836654348869_1015771002_2107400_1890350_n. jpg
This looks like a retail board: right heatsink orange DIMM holders and grey SATA port.
Which board ?
:p
i guess its really lunching...
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5/hondacity25/71dd68ed.png
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGHH HHH !!
How is it possible that marketeers are using the very small space for words to brag about USB3.0 capability.
:rolleyes:
...meanwhile, inside Marketing Man's head:
"Wow, what's that crap mobo... it doesn't have nothing interesting to speak about!
It should be something like low low low end mobo... allright let's see... WAIT it has usb3 ports! Here it is, finally something, on this silly mobo, to speak about!" :D :D
Christian Ney
03-31-2011, 10:29
Instead of USB3.0 they should have promote massman's design FTW
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/198268_1900112503106_1250482581_32201593_1193597_n .jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1900112503106&set=a.1420856802013.2058968.1250482581)
Somewhere in Europe, in a far far away galax.. ehr... country, Pieter was looking at the public presentation of the X58A-OC:
"WTF, USB3 advertising?!?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tim5nU3DwIE
USB 3.0 so we can upload our scores to flashdrives quicker
Christian Ney
03-31-2011, 10:40
i guess its really lunching...
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5/hondacity25/71dd68ed.png
http://www.imup.se/i/BMzmPIKyJt.jpg
Turrican
03-31-2011, 10:42
lol:D
LOL@Pt1t disapproving :D :D
Christian Ney
03-31-2011, 13:18
Here is the launch gallery (if you clic :D) (http://mb.zol.com.cn/slide/222/2227113_all.html)
Little foretaste:
http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=b3375e732427befe7c5beabd0762e1c6&url=http%3A%2F%2Flh5.ggpht.com%2F_CJpbLrog_T0%2FTZ PFSWkIt0I%2FAAAAAAAAAu4%2FnsEaIR4bhfY%2Fimage%255B 22%255D.png%3Fimgmax%3D800
Which board ? http://www.ocaholic.ch/forum/wcf/images/smilies/blush2.gif
btw, I prefer MSI girls :D
EDIT: Seems it's the same link and pic as massman -.- :o
Leeghoofd
03-31-2011, 18:11
Either that is a freaking huge board or the booth babe holding it is tiny ...
Christian Ney
03-31-2011, 18:23
Both :D
Hondacity
03-31-2011, 20:05
Instead of USB3.0 they should have promote massman's design FTW
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/198268_1900112503106_1250482581_32201593_1193597_n .jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1900112503106&set=a.1420856802013.2058968.1250482581)
wet pants? lol
They only need to make a dedicated oc board
Rampage Extreme, Classifieds was long time before OC boards.
World first OC board? That's even not funny mktg BS.
Christian Ney
04-05-2011, 12:26
No, there aren't OC boards, we use them for OC, ok
But then aim gamers
aka Designed for gamers ;)
Rampage Extreme, Classifieds was long time before OC boards.
World first OC board? That's even not funny mktg BS.
Rampage Extreme - useless features = OC board
Classified - useless features = OC board
It's not because you cán overclock, it's an overclocking board. It's not because you add OC features, it's an overclocking board. It's not because you add high quality components, it's an overclocking board.
The "World's first"-claim is just the MKT way of trying to send the message. Funny/BS/..., doesn't matter. It's just marketing.
Eeky NoX
04-05-2011, 18:23
Wow such a polemic here :D Hey TiN when do we shall see YOUR "OC board" ?! ClassyWDE (Walking Dead Edition)
You forget the Commando in your list too... but right ROG are aiming gamers at first ;)
It's not because you cán overclock, it's an overclocking board. It's not because you add OC features, it's an overclocking board. It's not because you add high quality components, it's an overclocking board.
Oh rly? So we can have crap PWM, and be stuck in BIOS always....as long as we mimic GBT's non-useless features layout. Great power delivery and overclocking features are the things that define a good overclocking board, not whether they left off a couple ports and had an internal struggle trying to figure out if they could get away with it.
Gigabyte employees have admitted they kept certain features so the board appealed to a wider market, so to be devils advocate,
X58A-OC - useless features = OC board?
The thing that makes a great overclocking board is... that it overclocks well. Feature set is irrelevant, other than cost aspect. This might be a great board... we don't know because theres still so damned little info on it!
Oh rly? So we can have crap PWM, and be stuck in BIOS always....as long as we mimic GBT's non-useless features layout. Great power delivery and overclocking features are the things that define a good overclocking board, not whether they left off a couple ports and had an internal struggle trying to figure out if they could get away with it.
I don't understand this comment. What I'm basically saying is that it's not because you add certain features related to overclocking that you suddenly have build an overclocker's mainboard. The things I have summed up are characteristics of an overclocker's board, but it's not because you have them that the product suddenly becomes something different.
It's not because I buy a rally bodykit for my car that I suddenly have a rally-car.
Rampage Extreme is part of the ROG-line. Republic of Gamers. Can this be any more clear?
Gigabyte employees have admitted they kept certain features so the board appealed to a wider market, so to be devils advocate,
X58A-OC - useless features = OC board?
There's a distinct difference between having to make compromises on audio-jacks and USB3 connectors to convince the sales department so you can get upper-management to approve production and building a mainboard targetted at gamers/all-in-one desktop systems, throwing in some overclocking related features and calling it a true overclocker's mainboard.
Anyway, I'm not really GIGABYTE's advocate here. When are these boards finally hitting retail FFS!!
Rampage Extreme is part of the ROG-line. Republic of Gamers. Can this be any more clear?
I class it as marketing.... it's a bigger demographic. IMHO, gamers don't need the robust feature set of the ROG line to have stable, durable boards (and GPUs) The name doesn't have to mean anything... same as "worlds first OC board" it's just to grab attention. Maybe Asus called it a gaming board to make it easier to get a Green light from management? :)
When are these boards finally hitting retail FFS!!
This! :D :D
Christian Ney
04-05-2011, 19:33
ROG sounds better than ROC or ROO :D
Republic of Clockers
Republic of Overclockers
knopflerbruce
04-05-2011, 21:15
I wouldn't call it "the first OC board" if it didn't have some features that would blow the competition away. I mean... it sounds weird when a dedicated OC board is on par with a board designed for gamers, right? The price tag is nice, and it does it's job in a very nice way, and that's why it'll be an attractive board for overclockers - not because it's groundbreaking OC wise.
Pissin in the wind, its not even retail yet and intel bid fairwell to it already.
strange arguments all round, so you guys would prefer to stick to the $500 boards even though $200 of that you dont need, OK i guess it makes sense to make more money for the manufacturer, why waste time doing this then :D
i can see a future in gaming boards because of the extra profit a manufacturer makes and there is very little resistance even from overclocking community, fair enough :confused:
the title doesnt matter, its who makes it and what's under the hood and how much you're paying for it that does imo, but sure shoot it down let's keep the $500+ "OC" boards instead :rolleyes:
Dinos, this is what happens when speculation and hype are not matched by a final product that people can test and make real-world conclusions about themselves.
I guess, to quote Shamino.... "Not saying, but showing"
Lsdmeasap
04-06-2011, 10:24
strange arguments all round, so you guys would prefer to stick to the $500 boards even though $200 of that you dont need, OK i guess it makes sense to make more money for the manufacturer, why waste time doing this then :D
i can see a future in gaming boards because of the extra profit a manufacturer makes and there is very little resistance even from overclocking community, fair enough :confused:
the title doesnt matter, its who makes it and what's under the hood and how much you're paying for it that does imo, but sure shoot it down let's keep the $500+ "OC" boards instead :rolleyes:
Right (!), I don't get it either man??? Why bash a awesome board, that is going to be decently priced and deliver what everyone who reads about it is expecting, and instead want to buy a board that cost $200+ more that has multiple features that will be disabled anyway when used by a majority of overclockers.
I see it like this, following much of the analogies in this thread:
Regular Board = Features for everyone, nothing fancy for either (Gamer/OC'r) - Cost Average
Gamer Board = Features "We" don't need/want and will disable - Cost Above Average to High
OC Board = Awesome OC setup (IE no junk we'll disable anyway), and some features for everyone+ High quality components better than above mentioned boards that are designed and chosen to delivery high OC's - Cost Average (Below "Gamer" and about the same as many Regular boards)
Dinos, this is what happens when speculation and hype are not matched by a final product that people can test and make real-world conclusions about themselves.
^^ this.
Dinos, this is what happens when speculation and hype are not matched by a final product that people can test and make real-world conclusions about themselves.
yeah that is true, there was an unfortunate delay and it's a shame but its coming out soon so anyways it is what it is
strange arguments all round, so you guys would prefer to stick to the $500 boards even though $200 of that you dont need, OK i guess it makes sense to make more money for the manufacturer, why waste time doing this then :D
i can see a future in gaming boards because of the extra profit a manufacturer makes and there is very little resistance even from overclocking community, fair enough :confused:
the title doesnt matter, its who makes it and what's under the hood and how much you're paying for it that does imo, but sure shoot it down let's keep the $500+ "OC" boards instead :rolleyes:
Not bashing the board at all, it looks good, and you for sure won't see me complaining about the price. It's actually a very cool move of GBT to try and make a down to business board without all the fluff, a board that people might buzz about. That's something GBT has never done, and it would be cool to see them do it.
But first OC board? What does that say about the work Shamino did with Foxconn or EVGA? Garrett Wu with DFI and MSI? Or any of the many engineers behind such epic boards as the rampage extreme or even the ancient NF7-S? Now we have massman saying overclockers are not gamers, and that no one else ever made an OC board, the spin is getting too much to take :p
i hear ya but it is the first time a manufacturer has put out a dedicated OC board and stated the main market it is made for are extreme overclockers, it wasnt dressed up into this or that etc etc, just exactly what it is and who it's for
it would have sounded better if it was called a dedicated board but hey strictly speaking as an enthusiast and overclocker who gives a fuck as long as it OCs well and doesnt cost a shitload
i hear ya but it is the first time a manufacturer has put out a dedicated OC board and stated the main market it is made for are extreme overclockers, it wasnt dressed up into this or that etc etc, just exactly what it is and who it's for
it would have sounded better if it was called a dedicated board but hey strictly speaking as an enthusiast and overclocker who gives a fuck as long as it OCs well and doesnt cost a shitload
Quote for that. :)
And for the old motherboards, I want to remember that DFI mobos were named "lanparty", with a super-uber audio Karajan something on an external pcb, a BIG bundle with the bag with which one gamer could bring along his PC to reach gaming events etc...
The fact that those mobos were ALSO used by us is an addiction... but we were paying at least a 20/30% more for things that we never ever used.
So, chapeau to gigabyte and I agree with what Pieter is saying: this is the first OC board (they can improve it, ok, but it's a good start!) because it's built with our needs in mind. So we can buy a mobo that overclocks like a enthusiast gamers mobo (like the REX3), by paying less. :)
Eeky NoX
04-06-2011, 18:44
It is clearly A NEED. Noway for arguing to be objective. One for each plateforme would be nice a/the future.
But I'm perplex about the lifetime of the concept :/ Hope the mayonnaise will take :D
but hey strictly speaking as an enthusiast and overclocker who gives a fuck as long as it OCs well and doesnt cost a shitload
That's exactly my point. We have this section on the forums because according to some, no one ever made a board for overclockers which is a complete joke.
Are you purposefully ignoring everything else that is being said or what as pulling quotes out of context carry a different meaning?
How bout the CUSL2-C? (http://www.active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/cusl2-c.htm) No video, no sound, OC features. World's First?!
Christian Ney
04-07-2011, 07:17
I already talked about the -C version of asus, and even if it looks like a OC board cause of less features, it doesnt have enought OC features to be a dedicated OC board.
It s just the CUSL2 Lite :D and I love that
How bout the CUSL2-C? (http://www.active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/cusl2-c.htm) No video, no sound, OC features. World's First?!
Oh, awesome! Good catch!
There was the Abit mainboard too, this one as well. I think Foxconn did it +/_ with only 3x DIMM on their X58 board, but then had too much other features on board.
This OC board is definitly not the first 'overclocking mainboard'. I suppose it's pretty much the first modern dedicated OC board. Anyways, what's up with arguing over something what MARKETING said? If we believe everything marketing says, we should be most happy about the Super-Speed USB3 connector on the board :D
Christian Ney
04-07-2011, 07:51
-.-
When its bobnova who write CUSL2-C then its awesome and a good catch, but when its me who wrote about the CUSL2-C weeks ago then nothing -.-
Hu massman changed his avatar pic, he is in trouble
I guess I'm special. So special I forgot you'd already posted it :P
alancsalt
04-11-2011, 04:57
The only thing wrong with the X58A-OC is that it is not yet for sale to mere mortals, but I can understand some might think that the current exclusivity is a good thing......
Waiting, just waiting. Sigh.
Apparently first boards should be getting to retail channels now. Not sure if the board CAL930 has is retail or provided by GBT too.
Efficiency on Bloomfield looks okay :D
submission
smokin'
especially considering the memory timings :D
And for the critial minds: board's retail design, but send to Chew* (not purchased)
lesstutrey
04-14-2011, 09:00
i can't wait for this thing.. ln2 is a waste with my current x58 board.
smokin'
especially considering the memory timings :D
Boards running a tight ship, couldn't suck in trcd and I know my set is good for 960 6-6-6.
I can't even post with trcd 6 much less try to get it stable. Not a bad thing trcd 7 = 6 performance compared to other boards.
Hey dino can you put in a note for me, voltage increments. This .100 increment stuff is killing me. 1.3, 1.4,1.5,1.6 pll :/ what if my chip likes 1.55 :(
this mobo doesn't look bad at all with it's effiency
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