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Christian Ney
03-31-2011, 09:25
atm, the link to download the official wallpaper doesn't work ;)

Massman
03-31-2011, 09:28
That's because there's none available yet.

If you still have a LGA1156 lying around, it's ~ 75€ for the cheapest OC Genie board and enter the comp.

Christian Ney
03-31-2011, 09:32
If you still have a LGA1156 lying around, it's ~ 75€ for the cheapest OC Genie board and enter the comp.

http://www.ocaholic.ch/forum/wcf/images/smilies/crying.png

How do you know I haven't got any LGA1156 ?

http://www.ocaholic.ch/forum/wcf/images/smilies/crying.png

Massman
03-31-2011, 09:51
Cheapest lga1156 chip is the G6950 ~ 90€. So combo is like ~€165

Dunno about ebay.

Sam OCX
03-31-2011, 13:55
for % bit, G6950 is far from the best choice ;)

Massman
03-31-2011, 14:44
There's one Xeon at 2.26G, no?

Sam OCX
03-31-2011, 14:59
the L3426, yes

Massman
03-31-2011, 16:26
Just uploaded example video for the CPU-Z stage. SuperPI-32M example coming too

H77JK_YCEAY

Christian Ney
03-31-2011, 16:39
Nice Exotic graphic card btw

Massman
03-31-2011, 17:08
Link to wallpaper: http://hwbot.org/blog/wp-content//1680x1050.jpg

buska103
03-31-2011, 19:28
Bah... I wish I knew about this site before last month's AMD/MSI competition... I dream about adding another Cyclone to my rig every day :(

Anyway, good luck with all you LGA 1156 owners!

Hondacity
03-31-2011, 20:52
so you can't change bios settings? only oc genie button? and thats it?

Christian Ney
03-31-2011, 20:54
yes

Hondacity
04-01-2011, 05:46
april fools?

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-03-2011, 17:09
I have the following problem when uploading a result. (MSI OC GENIE)
I tried over 10 times and it gives error.

Oops. Something went wrong.

We could blame this on you but it's most likely our crappy coding skills. You could try again or nudge our developpers for fixing this.
Error message
org.apache.torque.TorqueException: java.sql.SQLException: Incorrect string value: '\xD0\x91\xD0\xB5\xD0\xB7...' for column 'name' at row 1
Error stack trace
org.apache.torque.util.BasePeer.throwTorqueExcepti on line 105
org.apache.torque.util.BasePeer.insertOrUpdateReco rd line 680
org.apache.torque.util.BasePeer.doInsert line 562
org.hwbot.persistence.base.BaseImagePeer.doInsert line 238
org.hwbot.persistence.base.BaseImagePeer.doInsert line 605
org.hwbot.persistence.base.BaseImage.save line 16594
org.hwbot.persistence.base.BaseImage.save line 16558
org.hwbot.persistence.base.BaseImage.save line 16539
org.hwbot.web.actions.HwbotAction.processImage line 117
org.hwbot.web.actions.SubmitResultAction.run line 239

Christian Ney
04-03-2011, 17:09
Massman, can you change :

''The final result will be calculated on April 9 10AM TWN (GMT+8) ''

into:

''The final result will be calculated on May 9 10AM TWN (GMT+8) ''

MSI FAN CLUB Official Facebook page told me it's not April but May for the video vote

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-03-2011, 17:36
Someone to whom I told my problem above?

Massman
04-03-2011, 17:37
What is the name of your screenshot?

Massman
04-03-2011, 17:38
Massman, can you change :

''The final result will be calculated on April 9 10AM TWN (GMT+8) ''

into:

''The final result will be calculated on May 9 10AM TWN (GMT+8) ''

MSI FAN CLUB Official Facebook page told me it's not April but May for the video vote

Thanks, just fixed it!

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-03-2011, 17:49
In the pictures I fixed.

But now I have another error with the clip

???bg.exception_unkown.youtube.movie???

Massman
04-03-2011, 17:51
What is the format of the youtube url you're providing?

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-03-2011, 17:53
format is MP4

EDIT:

Apologize
fix up everything :) :) :)

Massman
04-04-2011, 15:03
What was the issue?

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-04-2011, 15:31
Photos must be in English letters to me were the Cyrillic (Bulgarian)
I wrote them in English and be fine.
Then I do not accept videos from youtube.
Once uploaded videos in youtube, have to wait about 30 minutes. And then to share in hwbot.

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-07-2011, 20:19
I report the results of >> yamahar1
On the video, CPU after pressing OC GENIE is 210x18 = 3780Mhz.
And once in windows is clearly visible on the CPU-Z 217x18 = 3914mhz
Man entered during loading of windows used BCLK buttons on the board.
This should be a violation of the rules.

johnamd
04-07-2011, 21:32
i can use 2 cpu , one for sp32 and one for cpuz?

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-14-2011, 07:34
Again lying.
OC Genie clock my processor i7 860 of 2530.0MHz -> 3788.5MHz: +49.74%

And if it is the result yamahar1 - 2530.0MHz -> 3932.3MHz: +55.42%:

This is impossible, in the same motherboards and processors.

Christian Ney
04-14-2011, 07:46
It's not cheating, when the i7 860 has been added to the database, his default clock has been set to 2.5 GHz and in fact it's 2.8GHz, when this will be changed, then it will be OK.


Ho and btw :

http://www.facebook.com/MSIHQFANCLUB/posts/148932271840121

Massman
04-14-2011, 08:09
I'll look into it!

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-14-2011, 08:21
Leaving a party error in initializing the processor.
I speak specifically for overclocking which is achieved with ocgenie, how much different from mine in the same machines.

Massman
04-14-2011, 09:01
I report the results of >> yamahar1
On the video, CPU after pressing OC GENIE is 210x18 = 3780Mhz.
And once in windows is clearly visible on the CPU-Z 217x18 = 3914mhz
Man entered during loading of windows used BCLK buttons on the board.
This should be a violation of the rules.

Hm.

In the CPU-Z video I clearly see 218x18 boot

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/2155285_yamahar1_cpu_z_core_i7_860_3932.3_mhz

Christian Ney
04-14-2011, 09:08
I see 218x18 too on the POST ;)

Massman
04-14-2011, 09:52
Christian - nice video, but not at all valid for the competition ... ^^

Christian Ney
04-14-2011, 10:01
Not for the comp :D

But for the ''MSI Fan Club Voting Contest '' :p

I need vote guys come on ;)

Turrican
04-14-2011, 10:12
nice video. ;)

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-14-2011, 11:06
Do not look post screen, OCgenie where is blck option buttons work, so after pressing the button, people can immediately press the + (plus) and overclocking the CPU Dock reach the post screen

I say it is impossible for the same processor and motherboard, then pressing the OC Genie are overclocking differently.

Massman
04-14-2011, 11:14
On my Xpower board, the BCLK buttons were disabled with OC Genie I think. Are you sure pressing the BCLK buttons before POST screen will increase value?

There are quite some differences between the two setups, by the way. Different BIOS, different memory divider.

johnamd
04-14-2011, 17:25
hello massman,i can use 2 cpu different, one for sp32 and one for cpuz?(with two video different) help please.

johnamd
04-17-2011, 17:26
my friend oc genie when you have got multipler 25 you can use bios (super unlock technology)Then lock bclk 155 and multipler 25 .you use untiliti (msi control center)in from windows .be out Specific Rules look at this http://hwbot.org/article/news/rules_competition_59 too you have got wrong video look at this .i 'm sorry .too when you do reboot at black monitor under left there isn't yellow oc genie. please delete submission it.

Massman
04-17-2011, 18:00
my friend oc genie when you have got multipler 25 you can use bios (super unlock technology)Then lock bclk 155 and multipler 25 .you use untiliti (msi control center)in from windows .be out Specific Rules look at this http://hwbot.org/article/news/rules_competition_59 too you have got wrong video look at this .i 'm sorry .too when you do reboot at black monitor under left there isn't yellow oc genie. please delete submission it.

Can you please post your message in Greeek? The translator is making it very difficult to understand the message.

George_o/c
04-17-2011, 18:01
I can translate it then :)

johnamd
04-17-2011, 18:19
φιλε μου oc genie οταν εχεις πολαπλασιαστη 25 τοτε χρισημοποιεις τη λειτουργια στο bios super unlock technology ,τοτε αυτη η λειτουργια κλειδωνει το bclk σε 155 και το mult σε 25 . εσυ χρισειμοποιεις το utilitis (control center) μεσα απο τα windows , αυτο ειναι παραβιαση τον κανονων . επισης οταν κανεις reboot δεν εμφανιζεται στην οθονει η λειτουργια oc genie μρ κιτρινα γραματα. ειναι εκτος κανονων. ευχαριστω

johnamd
04-17-2011, 18:54
The member oc genie is out of rules because he use utilities (control center by MSI). if use 875k the bios unlock selection super unlock technology. and lock the multiplier 25 and bclk 155. the member with control center upgrade bclk 155=>178. and restart the system. after we can't see the yellow worlds oc genie. Thank you!!!

Christian Ney
04-18-2011, 21:02
Sooooo, both of you guys have not a valid video

First:

yamahar1's video is wrong, why ? No Clear CMOS
Explanation:
0:21 we clearly see that the ''OS Speed'' and ''CPU Speed'' is 219x18
He hasn't cleared the CMOS, then he saved settings reboot and push the OC Genie Button after.
Ok there is the OC Genie Logo but I don't think it worked on that way because ''OS Speed'' and ''CPU Speed'' are again both 219x18 @ 0:42


Now Regarding OcGenie's video:
He hasn't cleared the CMOS too
1:39 => we have ''CPU Speed'' 178x22 and ''OS Speed'' 178x25 WTF ?


Anyway, you guys have to Clear the CMOS before pushing the OC Genie Button and have to clearly show it on the video

like here:
H77JK_YCEAY

It's not that hard to do it step by step.

Clear CMOS => start the board => disable Logo => push OC Genie Button => press F10 and Enter...... Do not forgot to change IDE/AHCI for your Hard Drive


EDIT: Instead of Clear CMOS, you can also ''Load Default settings'' or ''Optimised Settings'' on the BIOS as far as I know, and then follow the steps ;)

Massman
04-19-2011, 09:37
Looking into this issue with MSI at the moment.

One thing is very clear: OC Genie must be setting the overclock, not the user. So, it's not ok to press it during post and just have the message (OC Genie didn't set the overclock) or already press the button and then do manual OC afterwards.

Massman
04-19-2011, 09:52
Yamahar1's result is not valid: manual OC is not allowed and OC Genie did not set the overclock.

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/2155831_yamahar1_cpu_z_core_i7_860_3950_mhz
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/2155833_yamahar1_superpi_32m_core_i7_860_9min_37se c_140ms

In these two submissions we don't see OC Genie button being pressed -> OC Genie doesn't set overclock.

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/2155285_yamahar1_cpu_z_core_i7_860_3932.3_mhz
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/2155287_yamahar1_superpi_32m_core_i7_860_9min_48se c_963ms

Christian Ney
04-19-2011, 09:56
I deserve a prize for my investigation :p

:D

Massman
04-19-2011, 10:29
;)

yamahar1
04-19-2011, 13:58
my result is not valid. ok !!! can you see the utility (control center) on the screen shot oc genie? run this utility down -left . utility is on the rules?

Massman
04-19-2011, 14:07
OC Genie did not set the overclocked settings, so you set them manually (which is against the rules).

The have OC Genie overclock your system, you must:

- shut down your system
- press OC Genie
- power up system

Pressing OC Genie button after boot does not activate it.

Christian Ney
04-19-2011, 14:09
And don't forget to CLEAR CMOS :p


BTW yamahar1's submissions have been blocked or removed, why OcGenie's ones not ?

yamahar1
04-19-2011, 14:12
in the oc genie video the yellow worlds oc enable on start up does not exist. can you see that? is valid?

Massman
04-19-2011, 14:12
Clear CMOS is not necessary. On my board, OC Genie changed my overclocked settings.

yamahar1
04-19-2011, 14:13
And don't forget to CLEAR CMOS :p


BTW yamahar1's submissions have been blocked or removed, why OcGenie's ones not ?
yes.

Massman
04-19-2011, 14:13
in the oc genie video the yellow worlds oc enable on start up does not exist. can you see that? is valid?

OC Genie button is enabled, but OC Genie didn't overclock the system because it can only do so after power off/on.

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-19-2011, 14:14
Congratulations to Christian Ney:)
As I wrote on the back, it is impossible the same processor clock them differently!

People like yamahar1 should be removed from HWBOT.

yamahar1
04-19-2011, 14:15
Clear CMOS is not necessary. On my board, OC Genie changed my overclocked settings.

do you have 875k?

Christian Ney
04-19-2011, 14:19
Clear CMOS is not necessary. On my board, OC Genie changed my overclocked settings.

Ok maybe, I don't know I haven't tested myself but anyway it's better to be legit.

And you do it on your video :rolleyes: so...

Massman
04-19-2011, 14:24
And don't forget to CLEAR CMOS :p

BTW yamahar1's submissions have been blocked or removed, why OcGenie's ones not ?

My apoligies, just removed the questionable results.

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-19-2011, 14:26
Now having looked in the video posted by OcGenie, I noticed that he also has not given CLR_CMOS. Or at least to load settings from BIOS default.

If wrong correct me.

Christian Ney
04-19-2011, 14:28
Yes he didn't but as massman said it's ok OC Genie take the advantage and do the overclock himself without CLR_CMOS

My apoligies, just removed the questionable results.

My bad, I haven't seen that those were other results than the one we talked before, so you removed the good one :thumbsup:

Massman
04-19-2011, 14:29
Is it normal that in OcGenie's video there is no message visible that OC Genie is enabled when the full logo is disabled?

Christian Ney
04-19-2011, 14:31
On the 2 other videos I ''approved'' the OC Genie logo is showed...

Will check again the new OcGenie's video

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-19-2011, 14:31
Definitely not normal

Massman
04-19-2011, 14:32
Looks like he disabled OC Genie functionality in the BIOS before taking the video. Pressing the OC Genie button if you have disabled OC Genie functionality has no effect, but I think P55 boards show it in the full logo anyway.

Christian Ney
04-19-2011, 14:36
Hum, imo as he hasn't filmed the full monitor, the logo is out of his video camera ? At the bottom


EDIT: And according to other videos, his computer boots very fast like there is no OC Genie tests ... (aka time that OC Genie find the best values to overclock the rig)

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-19-2011, 14:39
When I was stopped when the option from the BIOS (OC GENIE), even if it is pressed, your logo is normal and is off option ocgenie

But in the case of "OCGENIE", he neither set of BIOS defaults, neither shows the inscription that appears after activating ocgenie.
I do not know whether it is in the rules but is full of darkness.

Also as seen from my clip, then press the button and start OCGenie system has at least 10 seconds while waiting OCgenie overclocking the CPU.

johnamd
04-19-2011, 15:10
my frieds use intiliti (controlcenter)look it please massman (two reboot don t yellow oc genie .look) I tried with 875k

johnamd
04-19-2011, 20:04
The member oc Genie is out of rules again. because he doesnt clear mos. we can see this on first boot, the frequency on the system is 4.180ghz and he don't ghange the controler IDE=> AHCI. im sorry for all this!!!! Thank you!

04ahgy
04-21-2011, 14:57
Hello!

Having problems submitting for stage 2.
Pressing submit button gives error message (all required fields are filled, double checked) competition limitation: your submission is incomplete Youtube video is required. ???en.exception_unkown.youtube.movie??? message appears near the youtube URL textbox. But I have a valid Youtube video, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QOu-aX1Iq8
It seems that HWBOT engine does not like the URL for some reason.

Please help me.

HGyu

Massman
04-21-2011, 15:37
It worked with the CPU-Z submission?

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-21-2011, 16:55
@04ahgy
Sorry but.
The two videos that you did not have the rules

04ahgy
04-21-2011, 23:27
It worked with the CPU-Z submission?

Yes, it worked. The Stage 2 one not worked. The procedure was the same, OS linux kernel 2.6.26.1, debian etch, firefox 3.5.
I will try it using some win machine later.

@LeGaL^CriMeR:
Please tell me the very exact details, what rules are violated. Lets focus on the first video, the only one (for just now) valid submission.

Rules are:

# The video must show the entire overclocking process, including:
— power off - true. Can be clearly seen that CLRCMOS jumper had been shorted, system boots at default settings, claiming at the post screen: CMOS Settings wrong. Entering setup, disabling full srceern logo, saving. After booting, poweroff occurred via touch button.
— pressing OC Genie button - clearly visible the pressing, and pressed button.
— post (with displaying operating frequency!) - poweron via touch button, system waits for about a dozen of seconds, post occurs at OCGenie managed frequency.
— boot in windows - The whole time visible.
— clearly show official Wallpaper + CPU-Z tabs (CPU, mainboard and memory) - The whole time visible.
— (for SuperPI-32M: clearly show first 5 loops and while CPU-Z CPU tab is open)- The whole time visible.

04ahgy
04-21-2011, 23:33
@04ahgy
Sorry but.
The two videos that you did not have the rules


Sorry to mention that, it seems you have some misunderstandings about the competition and the stages. At my submission into Stage1, you commented: "LeGaL^CriMeR: No results from Super PI!!! "
Of course, not. That stage is about CPU-Z valid. Second stage is about SuperPi. There is no rule, mentioning that all of the two stages have to be submitten simultaneously.

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-22-2011, 09:23
Sorry my mistake:) Obviously the first stage and can no super pi. But I think it is good to have it both and the clip is the same. Because we are all uploaded the same clip, and so easy anyone can upload a fraud if a different clip.

----------------
for your problem.
Otherwise, and I had problems with uploading video and score at the second level, I wrote a little further back how I fixed the problem.

Massman
04-22-2011, 09:25
The videos for SuperPI and CPU-Z can be different. What matters is that the frequency used for SuperPI is equal to one one that is validated :)

Massman
04-22-2011, 09:26
Yes, it worked. The Stage 2 one not worked. The procedure was the same, OS linux kernel 2.6.26.1, debian etch, firefox 3.5.
I will try it using some win machine later

If it doesn't work, let me know.

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-22-2011, 09:32
As for the participants: "OCGENIE" who once already tried to deceive us. And I think it is right to not be allowed to contest.

Massman
04-22-2011, 15:20
I think the same. Will discuss with MSI next week.

johnamd
04-23-2011, 06:14
the CriMeR video fsb 109.47 ,screenshot and cpuz 110.47 is failed.bios post 110 .all sumbission is small tne post bios.

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-23-2011, 08:20
My board itself changes its frequency by 1Mhz not think this is such a big problem.
Funny is it for overclocking hand 1mhz fsb above.
When the option is enabled OCGENIE, bclk buttons do not function or the BIOS or with software or from elsewhere can not change fsb frequency.

04ahgy
04-23-2011, 10:17
If it doesn't work, let me know.

Hi all,

Still unsuccessful my attempt submitting score for the second stage.
I made screenshot, trying to help locating the source of the error. http://www.apaczai.elte.hu/~04ahgy/PH/2011-04-23/youtube_error.jpg
The video is that can be seen in my profile, under videos tab. Automatically found by HWBOT engine. I tried to submit the short (youtu.be....), the long link (youtube.com/....), but alll tries was unsuccessful. Browser is FF4.0, Win7 x64 Ult, but still debian&FF3 and Mandriva&Conqueror does not work (same error).

HGyu

Massman
04-23-2011, 10:23
Please submit the result as a normal result. I'll manually add the youtube url and link it to the competition :)

Christian Ney
04-23-2011, 11:08
johnamd just PM me about the 1 Mhz change (Video showing 109.47 and SS : 110.47).

I did a little investigation and found this:

Not written anywhere but...
According to this kind of challenge, I think the video and the SS have to be linked. I mean what we see on the video has to be on the screenshot ? Logic

LeGaL^CriMeR's video is right according to the rules. But Super Pi Result was done separately (maybe the cpuz one too, but I have no proof). I mean it's not the same Super Pi run we see on the video.

On the Video:
Real Memory: 10366976
Available real memory: 1058623488
Allocated memory......
1rst loop: 06.583s
2nd loop: 27.643s
3rd loop: 51.886s
4th loop:....
....
....

Screenshot:
Real Memory: 1073741823
Available real memory: 1073741823
Allocated memory......
1rst loop: 06.536s
2nd loop: 27.471s
3rd loop: 51.542s
4th loop:....
....
....

These are not the same values...

regarding the cpuz 1 Mhz improvement, I think that's quite normal, I got some board that do MHz drop/increase and sometimes it's quite a lot, -/+ 3Mhz

johnamd
04-23-2011, 11:52
loop 4 screenshot is small from loop 4 video .but fsb no difference.I do not think is correct

johnamd
04-23-2011, 11:58
I understand from this is used untiliti or oc genie button after video.

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-23-2011, 12:01
simple picture is made ​​somewhat later, because running the test several times. If this is a problem. Tell me what to do test again and get it again.
I did this because the 21 Lop stuck my super pi with error "Not In exact round"
I say if there is a problem, tell me what to do again. To ensure my participation.
I am honest and do not use Cheats and hacks.

Christian Ney
04-23-2011, 12:05
I know you run it later and several times, but I imo for this kind of challenge the video must be the same as the screenshot.

But as it's not written explicitly somewhere, I can't affirm nothing


Maybe something to do with this sentence that I don't really understand
Note that the video for CPU-Z validation and SuperPI-32M run may be done seperatelly


EDIT:
Day in video is 3/4/11 and same on the SS (aka 3/4/11).
Time in video is 17:17 and 18:29 on the SS.

If he ran superpi several times (because it crashed or had errors) then it fits perfectly

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-23-2011, 12:11
Hope massman to speak he did. But if it is as written in the rules, I think no problems.

johnamd
04-23-2011, 12:48
you said the State Palace TEAM imposter because I made ​​a mistake.you was made ​​by knows ago.i think should not talk so

Massman
04-23-2011, 13:03
The loops in the superpi video must be the same like on the screenshot ...

What could else be the point of a Superpi video? :)

Christian Ney
04-23-2011, 13:10
Seems I was right, but in the case that the superpi run fail, he has to redo always a new video ?

Stupid question :p

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-23-2011, 13:14
ok
delete my score Level 2 and to nab a job:)

Hopefully no errors superpi, most of my crashes where the 21 loop :(

04ahgy
04-23-2011, 13:18
@ Massman:

I've made the submission, link: http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/2159678_
Video to match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QOu-aX1Iq8

Many thanks for your efforts,
Regards: HGyu

johnamd
04-23-2011, 14:09
motherbord with oc genie enable ,the fsb cpuz is small always from post bios. i have tasted 4 different cpu.

Christian Ney
04-23-2011, 14:27
motherbord with oc genie enable ,the fsb cpuz is small always from post bios. i have tasted 4 different cpu.

idle fsb yes, but when you stress it sometimes it increse or drop a bit, 1 MHz is 100 % possible

johnamd
04-23-2011, 15:05
The difference It is 109,47~109,60

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-23-2011, 16:04
unfortunately I can not pass the test again, will wait for new memories, g.skill ECO 1.35v. OCGENIE filed in my memory too low voltage that is less about them. Because it is not certified for p55 boards.
1:100 to successfully pass the entire test super pi.
Yet if not big problem, and feel that can be left result leave.


Here is what the error shows me

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/3706/nonamepu.th.png (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/nonamepu.png/)

problem makes it nearly every Lop I show you the last.

darkage
04-23-2011, 17:24
i think johnamd is right legal^crimer submission can not be valid as the blck will never go up even when stressed if it has 209,40X18 (3769,20MHZ) in cpuz he can't submit as 210,47 and in case of doubt he must post again
as for the superpi32 if it is not stable can't be submited i think
i have made some testings and even with a striped xp i only gain 11sec in superpi 32 never more MHZ
and when the system posted at 3570 in OS cpuz would show 3566 and stressing the system would not make it go up
darkage

johnamd
04-24-2011, 21:18
i can use windows xp,the change controler from ide .. ahci is mandatory?

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-24-2011, 23:46
Not necessarily, windows xp works only in ide mode




success

darkage
04-25-2011, 12:24
just gave up :-)
people just know too much for me :-)
i think i can't read the rules :-(

Massman
04-25-2011, 12:27
unfortunately I can not pass the test again, will wait for new memories, g.skill ECO 1.35v. OCGENIE filed in my memory too low voltage that is less about them. Because it is not certified for p55 boards.
1:100 to successfully pass the entire test super pi.
Yet if not big problem, and feel that can be left result leave.


Here is what the error shows me

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/3706/nonamepu.th.png (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/nonamepu.png/)

problem makes it nearly every Lop I show you the last.

Can you try different mem?

OC Genie not being stable = :rolleyes:

Massman
04-25-2011, 12:28
i think johnamd is right legal^crimer submission can not be valid as the blck will never go up even when stressed if it has 209,40X18 (3769,20MHZ) in cpuz he can't submit as 210,47 and in case of doubt he must post again
as for the superpi32 if it is not stable can't be submited i think
i have made some testings and even with a striped xp i only gain 11sec in superpi 32 never more MHZ
and when the system posted at 3570 in OS cpuz would show 3566 and stressing the system would not make it go up
darkage

The BIOS setting is sometimes just a bit off. Legal's result is ... legal :).

Massman
04-25-2011, 12:28
i can use windows xp,the change controler from ide .. ahci is mandatory?

XP is ok. And smart.

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-25-2011, 13:55
will use a memory sandy motherboards which is low voltage (kingston), but will it flash with firmware of g.skill, I think that is not prohibited?
I'll try to days to show new results without the other pictures and presenter.

johnamd
04-25-2011, 14:19
some participants were doing WRONG in the past,οκ.but attempting to cover the WRONG to suggest it is unacceptable (ι7 860 224bus with oc genie) sorry

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-25-2011, 14:27
maybe used OC Dashboard that comes with the motherboard

johnamd
04-25-2011, 14:40
i think montaz video

Massman
04-27-2011, 13:07
@ Massman:

I've made the submission, link: http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/2159678_
Video to match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QOu-aX1Iq8

Many thanks for your efforts,
Regards: HGyu

Fixed

some participants were doing WRONG in the past,οκ.but attempting to cover the WRONG to suggest it is unacceptable (ι7 860 224bus with oc genie) sorry

MSI just let me know that 224 is perfectly possible :)

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-27-2011, 13:54
Guess what.
After pressing the OCGENIE the system and need time to be included.
Dock is a black screen, the man watching her post the numbers of separate remote control. And before you include screen and it rebooted and set manually from BCLK OC controller. Therefore we see the result only by showing the image on the monitor.
My result and another colleague posted in OCGENIE contest with the same processor, and we have such success by nearly 50% overclock!

Massman
04-27-2011, 13:59
But dashboard is not even connected?

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-27-2011, 14:20
OC cable panel is folded and does not see well edali was hooked. So please make a new video being shot and the rear of the board. I'm sure the mod is on the board or the CPU but can not prove.

Massman
04-27-2011, 14:26
At 0:17 you can see that the Dashboard is not connected.

Maybe the negative temperature help to clock higher ...

johnamd
04-27-2011, 14:38
The video editing are the deviation?

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-27-2011, 14:40
I did my work, to include OC GENIE launch of 18x210.
With the help of BCLK buttons, the CPU goes just as much as "clon22" fsb-223.45. With one (1) step up and blue screen.
I think the rules we should have a ban in the BIOS of BCLK buttons. To not like me and others to doubt the ability of a OCGENIE.

http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/2325/bios14.th.jpg (http://img814.imageshack.us/i/bios14.jpg/)

Massman
04-27-2011, 14:50
Big Bang Trinergy doesn't have BCLK buttons ...

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-27-2011, 15:06
There are but a dashboard
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8640/unledsv.th.png (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/unledsv.png/)http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8893/bbtrinergy038.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/bbtrinergy038.jpg/)

Massman
04-27-2011, 15:18
But Dashboard is not connected. You can see that in the video at 0:17 ...

johnamd
04-27-2011, 17:39
LapinouX video is failed ,not appear in the original bus after reset bios.look it admin please

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-27-2011, 17:45
OMG 2 result the same , how to overclock i7 860 up to 4Ghz ?

Used mod or cheat ? i don`t understand

Massman
04-27-2011, 17:52
LapinouX video is failed ,not appear in the original bus after reset bios.look it admin please

BIOS was reset. You can see the message about CMOS reset and option F1 to boot in OS. CPU-Z video is legit.

OMG 2 result the same , how to overclock i7 860 up to 4Ghz ?

Used mod or cheat ? i don`t understand

Sigh.

It's not because others can do it and you not it's not legit ... check their system closer and you will see difference.

johnamd
04-27-2011, 18:43
i dont seew bus 133,

Massman
04-27-2011, 18:44
Because after reset it show bios logo again.

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-27-2011, 19:37
It would not be bad to look at and in the Facebook page. penultimate clip, and he is i7 860, and OC GENIE clock it the same way 210x18.

Jump two participants made ​​the whole competition for laughter.

EDIT:

Video of LapinouX's, not shown CPU-Z (memory) and CPU-Z (SPD)

LapinouX
04-27-2011, 20:26
OMG 2 result the same , how to overclock i7 860 up to 4Ghz ?
Used mod or cheat ? i don`t understand

Nothing of that, just depending of boot.
i thinks same as you after my first test ( around 3.8 )
But after 4 or 5 run and movie i see 4022.

After one other ( just missing cmos before ) i see 18*224.8.

For CPU-Z Memory and SPD, i try to make another great run tomorow.

04ahgy
04-27-2011, 21:55
@Massman: thanks for your help.

@LapinouX: nice work at all, but (strictly regarding the rules) video lenght is out of the acceptable period.

@yamahar1: your Stage2 submission is made with completely different CPU than the submission for Stage1. i7-860 vs. i5-680... According to the rules both of them cannot be valid.

@LeGaL^CriMeR: stop crying around, it's a little bit boring. First fix your Stage2 video according to the screenshot. You didn't get that session at the same time the screenshot made (different allocated memory sizes on video and screenshot). If all your submissions are flawed to the end, then you can continue searching other people's submissions for errors.

johnamd
04-27-2011, 21:55
Nothing of that, just depending of boot.
i thinks same as you after my first test ( around 3.8 )
But after 4 or 5 run and movie i see 4022.

After one other ( just missing cmos before ) i see 18*224.8.

For CPU-Z Memory and SPD, i try to make another great run tomorow.

why dont you showell bus 133 first booting?

johnamd
04-27-2011, 21:59
@Massman: thanks for your help.

@LapinouX: nice work at all, but (strictly regarding the rules) video lenght is out of the acceptable period.

@yamahar1: your Stage2 submission is made with completely different CPU than the submission for Stage1. i7-860 vs. i5-680... According to the rules both of them cannot be valid.

@LeGaL^CriMeR: stop crying around, it's a little bit boring. First fix your Stage2 video according to the screenshot. You didn't get that session at the same time the screenshot made (different allocated memory sizes on video and screenshot). If all your submissions are flawed to the end, then you can continue searching other people's submissions for errors.
yamahar1 use 2 cpu ,no problem (massman is valid)

04ahgy
04-27-2011, 22:06
yamahar1 use 2 cpu ,no problem (massman is valid)

Then what about the criteria written in Stage2 rules: "- Frequency must be the same as the one used to submit the CPU-Z score." It's just not the same.

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-27-2011, 22:15
Tomorrow we will get new results are completely normal.
Today arrived my memory and I hope now everything is fine. I think to test until the morning and upload the results.

And here they beauties:)

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5752/khx2000.th.png (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/khx2000.png/)

LapinouX
04-27-2011, 22:18
@ johnamd : because i have logo bios after reset bios ( miss to push Tab )

@04ahgy : i see also some little problem on my movie, make another run tomorow with respect exactly rules and use a real cam.

johnamd
04-27-2011, 22:23
The camera does not seem right to screen,

johnamd
04-27-2011, 22:25
Then what about the criteria written in Stage2 rules: "- Frequency must be the same as the one used to submit the CPU-Z score." It's just not the same.

just cpuz and sp32 for 2 stage,

darkage
04-27-2011, 22:31
Then what about the criteria written in Stage2 rules: "- Frequency must be the same as the one used to submit the CPU-Z score." It's just not the same.
i allready told that people are to smart for me ;-)
and i allready told that i could not read the rulles
so i removed my two entrys
i'm waiting to see the final result as for me the only one correct runing for now is 04ahgy
and the system must be shut down before turning on ocgenie
who does this and have 40%+ overclock i pay a dinner next christmas :-)

04ahgy
04-27-2011, 22:50
just cpuz and sp32 for 2 stage,

That is not the One used to submit CPU-Z score, because it is not a CPU-Z score. It is a SuperPi score, for which CPU-Z window is obligatory.
So in my interpretation, CPU-Z have to be on the screenshot according to the general SP32M rules, and this competition have EXTRA rules, due to the Stage1 and Stage2 submissions HAVE TO be linked, by the exactly same CPU frequency (in the normal few MHz oscillation interval, of course). The fact, same CPU frequency was used is proven by CPU-Z showing same MHz on the Stage1 and Stage2 submissions.

@darkage: thanks.

Alshva
04-27-2011, 22:58
That is not the One used to submit CPU-Z score, because it is not a CPU-Z score. It is a SuperPi score, for which CPU-Z window is obligatory.
So in my interpretation, CPU-Z have to be on the screenshot according to the general SP32M rules, and this competition have EXTRA rules, due to the Stage1 and Stage2 submissions HAVE TO be linked, by the exactly same CPU frequency (in the normal few MHz oscillation interval, of course). The fact, same CPU frequency was used is proven by CPU-Z showing same MHz on the Stage1 and Stage2 submissions.

@darkage: thanks.

Then the both submissions must have the same processor?

04ahgy
04-27-2011, 23:09
Then the both submissions must have the same processor?

I think, also the processors, but the rule says just frequency... But it is quite different to achieve same freq vith two different CPUs by just OCGenie.

HGyu

Alshva
04-28-2011, 00:09
I think, also the processors, but the rule says just frequency... But it is quite different to achieve same freq vith two different CPUs by just OCGenie.

HGyu

yeah .... is only to question about the yamahar's submissions... both are legal.. but not the same CPU... just to clear that!

Massman
04-28-2011, 08:01
I think, also the processors, but the rule says just frequency... But it is quite different to achieve same freq vith two different CPUs by just OCGenie.

HGyu

You can make ... 4 submissions.

2x with 870, 2x with 680. In both cases, 32M must be with the same frequency as CPU-Z.

04ahgy
04-28-2011, 08:22
You can make ... 4 submissions.

2x with 870, 2x with 680. In both cases, 32M must be with the same frequency as CPU-Z.

Ahaaa, I see clearly, but what's the point if one do not submit for stage1. Then her/his freq cannot equal to anything.
I do not want to induce persistent argument about this but still in my interpretation Stage2 submission cannot be valid without equal frequency Stage1 submission, but in the replaced case it can be valid. Eg. one member have valid CPU-Z but unsuccessful SP32M. So the member can submit Stage1 result, because it does not have to be equal to anything. But stage2 result cannot be equal to anything, if stage1 submission is not present.

HGyu

Massman
04-28-2011, 08:29
A SuperPI-32M submission is only valid if there is a CPU-Z submission too.

So, you can use 680 for CPU-Z, but if you want to use 870 for 32M, you also need to submit 870 CPU-Z.

04ahgy
04-28-2011, 08:51
A SuperPI-32M submission is only valid if there is a CPU-Z submission too.

So, you can use 680 for CPU-Z, but if you want to use 870 for 32M, you also need to submit 870 CPU-Z.

Yes. This exactly is, that I thought, and your answer is that I expected to see. Thank you.

HGyu

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-28-2011, 09:07
Looking for mods almost all night and nothing, OC GENIE outcome is not affected by what will be the start of the CPU (cold or additional) read 12 reviews for OC GENIE, and everywhere regardless of CPU overclocking is about 30% -37.4% .
These two results which have been uploaded, with over 45% overclock is just to limit the potential of BCLK (+) button. I hope as MASSMAN and MSI to review everything carefully.
Even if they try to make such a% overclock with this motherboard.

LapinouX
04-28-2011, 10:55
Look my new post an new video you see all of process without touch button.
Maximum see : 4.41Ghz (210*21) but no windows boot with this frequency.
After i obtain different CPU frequency with different memory stick.
( HyperX, HyperX Genesis, HyperX T1, Ripjaws and RipjawsX).

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-28-2011, 12:08
No no no, the fallacy of using OC genes, which shows you the wrong result 197x21 = 4137
Your actual score is 197x18 = 3536.
So come Dock in Windows pressing the + button several times current show, the frequency of the first screen that is 197x21 = 4137. If you do not touch the + button will show in windows 197x18 = 3536.
Can not get such a result as you and other colleagues with similar.
No correlation seen the video yet!

Here they got


Look my new post an new video you see all of process without touch button.
Maximum see : 4.41Ghz (210*21) but no windows boot with this frequency.
After i obtain different CPU frequency with different memory stick.
( HyperX, HyperX Genesis, HyperX T1, Ripjaws and RipjawsX).


Do not talk nonsense, that other memory is done differently and multipler FSB,

In JEDEC all memory are identical 9-9-9-24 666mhz

LapinouX
04-28-2011, 13:27
OC Genies uses the XMP, and all thoses sticks are using different XPM profiles (such as 2200 C7, 2133 C9 etc). So obviously, using different memory stick could change the result, although (like you said) JEDEC profiles are all the same (1333 C9).

I cannot understand what you're saying about "+ button" so please be more specific

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-28-2011, 13:33
Rather oc genie stops XMP profiles!

And my memory is XMP but always stay off when you set the BIOS default and otsgenie

OcGenie
04-28-2011, 19:26
I'm not understand why Johnamg is not the same validation on CPU Z .
Thanks you

Massman
04-28-2011, 20:25
So ... everyone is accusing the other guys of cheating ... :-/

Eeky NoX
04-28-2011, 20:31
To all contestants in here, keep on being serious please, competition and fairplay are the main words (don't be kids, don't be stupid sss!)

@Massman: it's becoming a parody now... I'm sorry you have to endure all of that in a such moment man...

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-28-2011, 20:42
OMG:) the race has become a lie and cheat;)
Definitely should be considered for new rules by the MSI

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-28-2011, 20:42
OMG:) the race has become a lie and cheat;)
Definitely should be considered for new rules by the MSI

Alshva
04-29-2011, 02:46
My board itself changes its frequency by 1Mhz not think this is such a big problem.
Funny is it for overclocking hand 1mhz fsb above.
When the option is enabled OCGENIE, bclk buttons do not function or the BIOS or with software or from elsewhere can not change fsb frequency.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szFRDq7SxvA

yes, u can... u are a fake! :S

1Mhz in FSB is impossible... in load off course you can have an increment of 1Mhz in core clock, but not in the FSB... :S

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-29-2011, 08:22
You'll get a normal result, deceiving to those where to delete them and stay on 1 spot;)

Massman
04-29-2011, 08:50
Looking for mods almost all night and nothing, OC GENIE outcome is not affected by what will be the start of the CPU (cold or additional) read 12 reviews for OC GENIE, and everywhere regardless of CPU overclocking is about 30% -37.4% .
These two results which have been uploaded, with over 45% overclock is just to limit the potential of BCLK (+) button. I hope as MASSMAN and MSI to review everything carefully.
Even if they try to make such a% overclock with this motherboard.

The OC Genie feature does not store 'default' overclocking settings for each CPU, but is actually testing the system's overclocking capabilities. The main key to get higher overclockers through OC Genie is by making sure the BCLK limit is pushed further. This can be done by using subzero temperatures. Also, using the wrong kit of memory can reduce the OC as OC Genie sets the BCLK and then checks if the memory can handle it.

DeM03
04-29-2011, 09:32
hi,
I think most of participant tried to cheat...
And all forget to shut down computer before pressing OC-GENIE button...

Maybe refresh or precise rules (shutdown before oc-genie, load optimized default in bios..) can avoid some doubts..

Otherwise, I would like to know if it is possible that the function oc-genie can change the multiplier to 24, while it's supposed to fall it and increase BCLK???

thank's for reading

Massman
04-29-2011, 09:38
hi,
I think most of participant tried to cheat...
And all forget to shut down computer before pressing OC-GENIE button...

Maybe refresh or precise rules (shutdown before oc-genie, load optimized default in bios..) can avoid some doubts..

Otherwise, I would like to know if it is possible that the function oc-genie can change the multiplier to 24, while it's supposed to fall it and increase BCLK???

thank's for reading

The system has to reboot after pressing OC Genie button before the settings are applied. You can see that Lapinoux pressed OC Genie button, then saved settings and reboot.

OC Genie is enabled.

OcGenie
04-29-2011, 10:40
Can you stop or delete the video of clon because is a cheater and don't have super pi validation is not normal is second !!! this is nont normal
1 week ago Please help me massman....

OcGenie
04-29-2011, 10:41
Yes is not normal CLON'22 viodeo is online......

Massman
04-29-2011, 10:43
I still don't understand what is wrong with that video.

DeM03
04-29-2011, 11:00
The system has to reboot after pressing OC Genie button before the settings are applied. You can see that Lapinoux pressed OC Genie button, then saved settings and reboot.

OC Genie is enabled.

ok, I understand, but there is something that intrigues me ...
Maybe I'm wrong, but is it possible that the function OC Genie don't decrease the multiplier, while it seems to do it, usually ..??
for exemple lapinoux get stock multiplier with i7 860 (x21) while every body have x18...

I do not want to doubt Lapinoux, I just wonder questions

(sorry in my previous post a made a mistake about multiplier x24...)

thx

OcGenie
04-29-2011, 11:04
Thank for your anwser ok for the firt time clon 22 no sumit superpi32 score and is a steep normal for testing systeme stabylity!!!
and not have screenshoot? It's normal?

Massman
04-29-2011, 11:19
Clon22 has made a correct CPU-Z submission. It's not obligatory to also make SuperPI-32M score.

Massman
04-29-2011, 11:19
ok, I understand, but there is something that intrigues me ...
Maybe I'm wrong, but is it possible that the function OC Genie don't decrease the multiplier, while it seems to do it, usually ..??
for exemple lapinoux get stock multiplier with i7 860 (x21) while every body have x18...

I do not want to doubt Lapinoux, I just wonder questions

(sorry in my previous post a made a mistake about multiplier x24...)

thx

MSI is checking it out now.

johnamd
04-29-2011, 15:09
Can someone admin answer us if considered appropriate video-lappinox ?to work and so the rest?

Massman
04-29-2011, 15:23
MSI repeated the 4GHz run in HQ, with enabling OC Genie.

johnamd
04-29-2011, 15:38
lappinox is not enable. how are yellow oc genie? i run AS lappinox is ok?

Massman
04-29-2011, 15:39
Why do you still believe Lapinoux' run is not with OC Genie enabled?

johnamd
04-29-2011, 16:00
rests οoc genie and close before do save .because do reboot and not shown yellow letters oc genie(do not load optimized because it has done before overclock and save without bios oc enable ,button only do enable).I do not blame anyone but echokanei tests

Massman
04-29-2011, 16:09
But ... I can see the yellow letters at 1:22 ...

johnamd
04-29-2011, 16:17
οκ (I saw no)mult is 21 msi What this says about(going to build a Wide same and give the link from you tube)

Massman
04-29-2011, 16:40
It was replicated in OS. Pay attention to BIOS version and procedure to enable OC Genie :)

DeM03
04-29-2011, 16:52
yes,
what msi says about the multiplier at 21?

Massman
04-29-2011, 16:56
That it's possible.

DeM03
04-29-2011, 17:07
ok

LeGaL^CriMeR
04-30-2011, 22:18
I wish luck to all, I have no nerve to do.

johnamd
04-30-2011, 22:27
do not close.....

Massman
05-01-2011, 15:23
Will go over the different entries with MSI tomorrow :)

Massman
05-02-2011, 11:40
- JohnAMD's 680 32M results were not valid due to lack of matching CPU-Z result in stage 1
- OC Genie's 32M result was removed because the screenshot did not match the video

Lapinoux and Clon22 are the winners of the competition.

Now following up on the voting contest at Facebook Fanpage.

Christian Ney
05-02-2011, 11:41
Congratz Lapinoux and Clon22

johnamd
05-02-2011, 13:38
I do not understand, though the latter was wrong, then the previous sp32 sec 9.10? why?

Massman
05-02-2011, 13:43
There's no CPU-Z video validation for that 680 processor, only for your i7 870. To have a valid SuperPI-32M score, you also needed to have a valid CPU-Z video.

johnamd
05-02-2011, 14:01
8.42 The registration has ratified neither the registration 9.10; Are you working;

Massman
05-02-2011, 14:08
That result is with the same i5 680: http://hwbot.org/community/submission/2162530_johnamd_superpi_32m_core_i5_680_9min_10sec _11ms

johnamd
05-02-2011, 14:22
Why Is Failed?

Massman
05-02-2011, 14:28
You don't have a CPU-Z validation video for that i5 680

You can make ... 4 submissions.

2x with 870, 2x with 680. In both cases, 32M must be with the same frequency as CPU-Z.

johnamd
05-02-2011, 14:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI0DJAJ0a7U THIS IS VIDEO IS NOT VALID?

Massman
05-02-2011, 14:33
There was no submission in CPU-Z stage ...

johnamd
05-02-2011, 14:38
for o.2 hz speak? physiological differences between the inertia system and full load cpu.

johnamd
05-02-2011, 14:42
thou say it is not upload it to stage1?

Massman
05-02-2011, 15:11
thou say it is not upload it to stage1?

http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?contestBenchmarkId=194&limit=200&order=user.country.name&filterBlocked=true

I don't see i5 680 score?

johnamd
05-02-2011, 15:41
After I had seen a greater oc% if uploads stage1 will not give

johnamd
05-02-2011, 15:42
really sorry!