The official HWBOT OC Challenge September 2011 thread.

[Massman]

I'll put a list of all graphics cards of each vendor that we have in our database. I might not be a complete list, so if you have another card, please don't hesitate to ask us to add it to the database :)

3DFX

- Voodoo Graphics (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ voodoo_graphics /)
- Voodoo Rush (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ voodoo_rush /)
- Voodoo2 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ voodoo2 /)
- Voodoo3 2000 AGP (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ voodoo3_2000_agp /)
- Voodoo3 2000 PCI (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ voodoo3_2000_pci /)
- Voodoo3 3000 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ voodoo3_3000 /)
- Voodoo4 4500 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ voodoo4_4500 /)
- Voodoo4 4500 PCI (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ voodoo4_4500_pci /)
- Voodoo5 5500 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ voodoo5_5500 /)
- Voodoo5 5500 PCI (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ voodoo5_5500_pci /)
- Voodoo6 6000 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ voodoo6_6000 /)

3DLabs

- Wildcat VP560 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ wildcat_vp560 /)
- Wildcat VP570 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ wildcat_vp570 /)
- Wildcat VP760 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ wildcat_vp760 /)
- Wildcat VP870 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ wildcat_vp870 /)

Intel

- 82810 Integrated Graphics (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ 82810_integrated_graphics /)
- 82815 Integrated Graphics (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ 82815_integrated_graphics /)
- 82830 Integrated Graphics (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ 82830_integrated_graphics /)
- 82845G Integrated Graphics (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ 82845g_integrated_graphics /)
- 82852 Integrated Graphics (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ 82852_integrated_graphics /)
- 82855 Integrated Graphics (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ 82855_integrated_graphics /)
- 82915G Integrated Graphics (Desktop) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ 82915g_integrated_graphics_desktop /)
- 82945G Integrated Graphics (Desktop) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ 82945g_integrated_graphics_desktop /)
- 82945GME Integrated Graphics (Mobile, Atom) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ 82945gme_integrated_graphics_mobile_atom /)
- GMA 3000 (946GZ, Q965, Q963) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_3000_946gz_q965_q963 /)
- GMA 3100 (G31, G33, Q35, Q33) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_3100_g31_g33_q35_q33 /)
- GMA 3150 (Pineview) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_3150_pineview /)
- GMA 4500 (Q45, Q43) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_4500_q45_q43 /)
- GMA 4500MHD (GM45) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_4500mhd_gm45 /)
- GMA 500 (UL11L, US15L, US15W) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_500_ul11l_us15l_us15w /)
- GMA 865 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_865 /)
- GMA 900 82915G (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_900_82915g_ /)
- GMA 950 (GM945 Mobile) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_950_gm945_mobile /)
- GMA HD (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_hd /)
- GMA HD (mobile) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_hd_mobile /)
- GMA HD 2000 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_hd_2000 /)
- GMA HD 3000 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_hd_3000 /)
- GMA X3000 (G965) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_x3000_g965 /)
- GMA X3100 (GM965) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_x3100_gm965 /)
- GMA X3500 (G35) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_x3500_g35 /)
- GMA X4500 (G43, G41) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_x4500_g43_g41 /)
- GMA X4500HD (G45) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ gma_x4500hd_g45 /)
- i740 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ i740 /)

Matrox

- G100 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ g100 /)
- G200 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ g200 /)
- G400 (16Mb) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ g400_16mb /)
- G400 (32Mb) (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ g400_32mb /)
- G400 MAX (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ g400_max /)
- G450 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ g450 /)
- G450 PCI (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ g450_pci /)
- G550 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ g550 /)
- Millenium II (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ millenium_ii /)
- P650 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ p650 /)
- P750 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ p750 /)
- Parhelia 128Mb (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ parhelia_128mb /)
- Parhelia 256Mb (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ parhelia_256mb /)
- Parhelia APVe (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ parhelia_apve /)
- Parhelia-LX (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ parhelia_lx /)

S3

- Chrome 430 GT (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ chrome_430_gt /)
- Chrome 440 GTX (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ chrome_440_gtx /)
- Chrome S25 DDR2 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ chrome_s25_ddr2 /)
- Chrome S27 DDR2 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ chrome_s27_ddr2 /)
- Chrome S27 DDR3 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ chrome_s27_ddr3 /)
- Deltachrome S8 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ deltachrome_s8 /)
- Deltachrome S8 Pro (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ deltachrome_s8_pro /)
- ProSavage 8A26 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ prosavage_8a26 /)
- ProSavage8 DDR (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ prosavage8_ddr /)
- S18 Pro (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ s18_pro /)
- S3G (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ s3g /)
- Savage 2000 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ savage_2000 /)
- Savage 4 (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ savage_4 /)
- Savage 4 PCI (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ savage_4_pci /)
- Savage IX (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ savage_ix /)
- SuperSavage/IXC (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ supersavageixc /)
- Trio 3D/2X (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ trio_3d2x /)
- Twister (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ twister /)
- Twister K (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ twister_k /)
- UniChrome Pro (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ unichrome_pro /)
- VIA Chrome9 HC IGP (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ via_chrome9_hc_igp /)
- Virge (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ virge /)
- Virge DX/GX (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ virge_dxgx /)
- Virge VX (http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/ virge_vx /)

[Massman]

And a list of the current records, in case you really get into it this month:

3DFX

- 4466 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 767739 /) by delly with Voodoo5 5500 at 190.00 / 190.00 MHz
- 3860 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 913739 /) by Freakezoit with Voodoo5 5500 PCI at 193.00 / 193.00 MHz
- 3720 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 606742 /) by Turrican with Voodoo5 5500 at 180.00 / 180.00 MHz
- 3696 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 610470 /) by cUsLs with Voodoo5 5500 at 190.00 / 190.00 MHz
- 3572 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 610471 /) by cUsLs with Voodoo6 6000 at 166.00 / 166.00 MHz
- 3394 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 597100 /) by Winterwind with Voodoo5 5500 at \N / \N MHz
- 3311 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 823763 /) by PCGH_Carsten with Voodoo5 5500 PCI at 190.00 / 190.00 MHz
- 3282 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 586923 /) by max1024 with Voodoo5 5500 PCI at 196.00 / 196.00 MHz
- 3243 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 585932 /) by max1024 with Voodoo5 5500 PCI at 196.00 / 196.00 MHz
- 3200 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 582571 /) by Mome with Voodoo5 5500 at 191.00 / 191.00 MHz

3DLabs

- 9070 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 944313 /) by Turrican with Wildcat VP870 at 230.00 / 170.00 MHz
- 3616 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 2105266 /) by slngsht with Wildcat VP760 at \N / \N MHz
- 1776 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 613529 /) by Alexandeer with Wildcat VP570 at 163.00 / 163.00 MHz
- 618 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 612829 /) by jim62 with Wildcat VP570 at 164.00 / 164.00 MHz

Intel

- 38326 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 2182700 /) by Ross with GMA HD 3000 at 2000.00 / \N MHz
- 37202 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 2190986 /) by SAMBA with GMA HD 3000 at 2300.00 / \N MHz
- 36623 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 2189961 /) by SAMBA with GMA HD 3000 at 2100.00 / 1808.00 MHz
- 36536 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 2201272 /) by S_A_V with GMA HD 3000 at 1950.00 / 1832.00 MHz
- 36142 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 2189686 /) by SAMBA with GMA HD 3000 at 2100.00 / 1808.00 MHz
- 30843 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 2174309 /) by dRweEz with GMA HD 3000 at 1900.00 / \N MHz
- 30442 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 2201249 /) by ovme with GMA HD 3000 at \N / \N MHz
- 29674 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 2198649 /) by Hikaru with GMA HD 3000 at 1800.00 / 1866.00 MHz
- 27337 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 2200944 /) by ovme with GMA HD 3000 at \N / \N MHz
- 26867 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 2169286 /) by leeghoofd with GMA HD 3000 at 1950.00 / 1066.00 MHz

Matrox

- 13168 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 2182032 /) by poparamiro with Parhelia 256Mb at 333.00 / 395.00 MHz
- 12534 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 2171653 /) by poparamiro with Parhelia 128Mb at 310.00 / 390.00 MHz
- 10030 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 854629 /) by 512bit.net with Parhelia 128Mb at 250.00 / 300.00 MHz
- 7676 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 774619 /) by Kolian with Parhelia 256Mb at 230.00 / 325.00 MHz
- 7588 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 794349 /) by PCGH_Carsten with Parhelia 128Mb at 217.00 / 271.00 MHz
- 4581 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 854528 /) by 512bit.net with P750 at 250.00 / 250.00 MHz
- 4313 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 789511 /) by PCGH_Carsten with P750 at 250.00 / 250.00 MHz
- 4249 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 920668 /) by ZM with P650 at 225.00 / 260.00 MHz
- 4224 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 914019 /) by Joker with P650 at 195.00 / 283.00 MHz
- 4200 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 930837 /) by TiN with Parhelia APVe at 300.00 / 300.00 MHz

S3

- 31856 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 746306 /) by Turrican with Chrome S27 DDR2 at 650.00 / 400.00 MHz
- 29653 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 897732 /) by Turrican with Chrome S27 DDR3 at 702.00 / 662.00 MHz
- 29340 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 744934 /) by Turrican with Chrome S25 DDR2 at 500.00 / 400.00 MHz
- 25637 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 918359 /) by Bull with Chrome S25 DDR2 at 500.00 / 400.00 MHz
- 21073 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 746305 /) by Turrican with Chrome S27 DDR2 at 650.00 / 400.00 MHz
- 20884 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 779494 /) by Turrican with Chrome 440 GTX at 725.00 / 702.00 MHz
- 20551 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 744412 /) by furor with Chrome S25 DDR2 at 665.00 / 400.00 MHz
- 19001 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 1084156 /) by UE50 with Chrome S25 DDR2 at 500.00 / 400.00 MHz
- 18924 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 748907 /) by Schrotti with Chrome S25 DDR2 at 500.00 / 400.00 MHz
- 18860 (http://hwbot.org/submission/ 744929 /) by Turrican with Chrome S25 DDR2 at 500.00 / 400.00 MHz

[Massman]

If needed, I can also look up what members have used this card before. Might be interesting for the large teams so they can contact this user?

[Luebke]

WOAH! thats a mega-cool competition! :eek:

but 3d-mark 01 is impossible on a voodoo 1 or 2, right? .__.

[Christian Ney]

but 3d-mark 01 is impossible on a voodoo 1 or 2, right? .__.

yeah due to hardware limitation, but I think with an ''SLI'' it's possible to have 32bit

EDIT: With SLI it's possible to have 1024x768, but still 16bit unfortunately

[Luebke]

but the voodoo 1+2 are not "stand-alone" cards, whats about a gtx580 + voodoo 2? (hope thats not allowed)

there should be a limitation for the other card.

yeah due to hardware limitation, but I think with an ''SLI'' it's possible to have 32bit

it´s a pity, but i have just one voodoo 1 and one voodoo 2 card :(

oh massman, you forgot one stage: sis ^_^
i guess there might be sis-cards, that are able to do the 3d-mark 01, right?

[Jerre]

i think 2 Voodoo2 SLI are still 16 or maybe 24 bit.

Well, i have a Canopus Voodoo2 (100 Mhz EDO Vram!) and some Voodoo3000 or the sorts... The Voodoo3 has no cooler fyi.

[Luebke]

i´m nosey how many results there will be by such seldom hardware :)

[Massman]

Probably not that much. Luckily, the HWBOT OC Challenges are just for fun ... it's not a big issue if there's not that many participants in one competition :)

[Luebke]

but it´s much more interesting than always the same: sandy @ 5.x GHz ^_^
i like competitions like that =)
good idea massman :)

[knopflerbruce]

That's why these competitions are so great, it's not the same, boring HW all the time - but more exotic and unusual parts:)

[Turrican]

lol, so finally i'm allowed to upload my 3dfx scores from 3dmark01 again?

[Luebke]

nope, just benches made especialy for this competition :p
i bet you have a lot of cards for this competition, right? ^^

[Mr.Scott]

oh massman, you forgot one stage: sis ^_^
i guess there might be sis-cards, that are able to do the 3d-mark 01, right?

Yes, there are.;)

[Turrican]

nope, just benches made especialy for this competition :p
i bet you have a lot of cards for this competition, right? ^^

lol, so the "non comfirm" voodoo2 scores get removed afterwards again? :D
i have cards for every stage, but just my ancient scores are uploaded.

[Turrican]

the best would be to drop intel, but add sis. :D

[Massman]

I'm in favour of adding a sixth stage (SIS), but not dropping one.

Anyone against it?

[Christian Ney]

then also add XGI ?

And drop Intel :D

[Turrican]

@chris

hmm no, that would a bit too much stages imho.

but intel is much "newer" than all others, that's why i thought of removing intel and add sis.

[Massman]

One newer is okay, maybe it'll trigger some people to submit their Intel score and then look for the other cards :)

[Luebke]

maybe you could limit the intel to chipset graphix (no sandy-integrated gpu)
i guess that might make the stage much more interesting instead all points on hd3000-submissions

including sis is a great idea :) xgi might be cool, too. i don´t think that 7 stages would be to much...

[Mr.Scott]

I'm in favour of adding a sixth stage (SIS), but not dropping one.

Anyone against it?
+1 for SiS.:)

[Massman]

Okay, added SIS. XGI will be for another competition, 7 stages is quite a lot in one month. Even 5 is already pushing it ...

[Luebke]

the more stages, the more fun :D
thx for adding sis. it´s a pity i don´t have stuff to bench for this competition except of course intel and maybe a weak s3 (is the virge able to do the 3d-mark?)... but it would be interesting to see, how many of these old "exotes" are still existing ^^

[Turrican]

the more stages, the more fun :D
thx for adding sis. it´s a pity i don´t have stuff to bench for this competition except of course intel and maybe a weak s3 (is the virge able to do the 3d-mark?)... but it would be interesting to see, how many of these old "exotes" are still existing ^^

haha, pretty funny you want more stages but don't have stuff for more than 2. :D:D

[Christian Ney]

haha, pretty funny you want more stages but don't have stuff for more than 2. :D:D

more than 1, virge can't run 3dmark01 :D

[Luebke]

if there were less stages, my chances wouldn´t be better to win the competition ;)
my intel-result would be good for 0 points and my s3 would only give points when there are less than 5 submissions at that stage :(

edit: hey, i´ve a super savage at my old thinkpad :)
so there will be still two stages for me chris :p
and maybe there will be something benchable at my stack :/

[Turrican]

nice, i'm loooking forward to it. ;)

[Luebke]

the intel run is in progress ^^
so i have some points at the beginning of the competition :D
and maybe some team mates have stuff for this competition, too... one have had a voodoo i gues...

[Rasparthe]

Just make your way to the local electronics recycling place. At least here in Canada these things are everywhere, ask nice and they let you go through the stacks of old cards they crush for the metal. $2 a piece can't go wrong. Going to see what I can find today!

[Luebke]

actualy i´ve found a lot of old grphiccards in my stack. one might be a voodoo3 :) some i don´t know, but matrox ore sis might be possible...
but i have a problem: most cards i can´t identify because there are no label on it :(
i´m afraid that it could kill my system because of wrong agp-standart. the stupid vendors uses at most cards the ultimate agp-port so u can´t see what agp-version it is. is there a chance to find out, what agp-version it is without destrouy the system? ^^

[Turrican]

just use the cards one an old agp 2x system (k6 or p2) and there should be no problem. you can't fit the very old cards (agp 2x) in a agp 8x board anyway. ;)

most 3dfx cards (voodoo3 xxxx, voodoo 5 5500) are for sure agp 2x.

[Luebke]

most 3dfx cards (voodoo3 xxxx, voodoo 5 5500) are for sure agp 2x.
this one is a agp 1.0 .__.

does anybody know, if the sis 6326 is able to do the 3d-mark 01?

[Turrican]

this one is a agp 1.0 .__.

does anybody know, if the sis 6326 is able to do the 3d-mark 01?
how much video ram does the card have. with less than 8mb it's not possible to run 3dmark01 with stock setting (1024x768)

[Luebke]

doesn´t matter any more, found a sis 315 :D *happy*
and gues what? you can choose the agp-standart of that card by jumper :D

[Turrican]

nice. :)

btw. you write standard with "d" even in german. :p

[Luebke]

oh thank you :O

hey the 315 is not bad

when do you submit your first results? i ´m nosey what hardware you have :)

edit: looks like i have killed my agp-port with an unknown agp-card with universal-agp-port >.<

[Christian Ney]

does anybody know, if the sis 6326 is able to do the 3d-mark 01?

I have some 6326, and I haven't manged to run 3DM01

[Chiller]

can you add new vga, hope i will have it next week in the house ???

3DLABS WILDCAT REALIZM 800 PCI-E 640MB 512 Bit

http://i52.tinypic.com/14m9kx3.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/2rcv1bd.jpg

[Freakezoit]

Hey Pieter ,

That one From delly (3DFX 5500 - 4466) is bugged he used 16bit color rendering not 32 bit as it should be (Look @ karls & mine and the other ones)

Ill try to fight in that Category , maybe with watercooling & Vmod or ill meet matti and put 2 SS on that baby :P

[Luebke]

@Chiller: nice card :)
do you use it for work?

@christian ney: my 6326 seems to be damaged. it works just at the beginning of boot-sequence, but already the menu where you choose the os doesn´t appear. thats interesting, because there is no driver loaded before you have chosen the os, right?
i´ve tried on 3 pcs and with win xp, win7 and ubuntu...

[Christian Ney]

@christian ney: my 6326 seems to be damaged. it works just at the beginning of boot-sequence, but already the menu where you choose the os doesn´t appear. thats interesting, because there is no driver loaded before you have chosen the os, right?
i´ve tried on 3 pcs and with win xp, win7 and ubuntu...

I had to use Windows 98, and you need specific drivers, for exemple I managed only to run 3DMark99, and DrSwizz managed to run 3DMark2000 too

[Luebke]

it´s a pity, because it is a pci-card. on a sandy it could make some points :D
do you have more cards for this competition? i bet you have^^ when we will see more results of you? :)
i have to do my benches one more time because scotty will see the details ^^

[Christian Ney]

do you have more cards for this competition? i bet you have^^ when we will see more results of you? :)

I think the only card I haven't is the 3DLabs, I have all other manufacturers but maybe not the high end cards.
As for 3dfx I need a voodoo5 cause my voodoo3 can't run default settings of 32bit.

Got i7 2600K(HD3000) too but I need a Z68 board, let's see if my friend can send me one

[Luebke]

As for 3dfx I need a voodoo5 cause my voodoo2 can't run default.

a voodoo3 would be enough to participate, but i gues you´d like to win the stage ;)

[Christian Ney]

a voodoo3 would be enough to participate, but i gues you´d like to win the stage ;)

No :( My voodoo3 2000 PCI can't run 3DMark01 in 32bit mode

[Luebke]

oh it´s a pity. a result on a sandy would be interesting ;)

[just_nuke_em]

I need an SiS 760/964 onboard added to the database please. It's on a Asus K8S-LA board. Thanks.

[Turrican]

I need an SiS 760/964 onboard added to the database please. It's on a Asus K8S-LA board. Thanks.

plz. post everest "gpu" screenshot with the specs, then i can add it. :)

also cpu-z link so the mobo can be added.

/edit: ok, board is there. :)
http://www.hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/k8s-la/

[just_nuke_em]

http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac115/justnukeem/untitled-5.png

I guess according to everest it's a mirage 2, so I guess it doesn't need an update? I should have looked at everest first and not cpuz. Gpuz didn't recognize it at all.

[Turrican]

yeah, seem to be this category.
http://www.hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/mirage_2/

[just_nuke_em]

Excellent, thanks.

[Turrican]

btw. only new scores are allowed?

[Turrican]

hey, i submitted this score for the 3dlabs category, but it doesn't show up in the competition? :confused:
http://www.hwbot.org/submission/2210743_

[Chiller]

submission till 30 september?

Maybe that's why you can't submit anymore ? ;)

[Turrican]

i submitted it before midnight. ;)
if it would say "oct 1st" on the submission it would be somthing different. ;)

[Christian Ney]

i submitted it before midnight. ;)

Me too

http://s2.noelshack.com/uploads/images/20289794917590_fffuuu.gif

[Turrican]

the funny thing is i submitted 3 other submissions after the 3dlabs one, but those count.

maybe a bug...

[Chiller]

recalculate maybe ?

[Turrican]

i tried but it doesn't work.
oh well...

edit: i looked especially to submit it not "normally" but for the stage. weird

[Christian Ney]

oh well...

You and me, tomorrow(today btw), 8:00 AM, harass massman on msn ;), Let's invite Knut and Sam too, to have a party :D

[xxbassplayerxx]

Sandbagging...

[Rasparthe]

Probably could have gotten the problem worked out if it had been submitted a day earlier.... :D