MSI 7970 Lightning [Archive]

oc_windforce

03-20-2012, 18:28

Hi all hwbot guys

Today......MSI 7970 Lightning in the house

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CPU : 2600K
M,b : MSI Z77A-GD55
MEM : GSKILL 2000 CL6
HDD : Raptor 300G
VGA : MSI 7970 Lightning
Cooling : Air
Power : GUGA 1K

7970 Lightning test Video
http://youtu.be/VuW-ZSYKDIg

http://3dmark.com/3dm11/2999247

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i will LN2 Test....... coming soon ^^

Sam OCX

03-20-2012, 18:35

what does the extra PCB on the back actually do?

oc_windforce

03-20-2012, 18:44

what does the extra PCB on the back actually do?

GPU Reactor : Extra GPU Power for better overclocking stability
http://event.msi.com/vga/lightning/r7970.html

Thanks sam

Olesius

03-20-2012, 20:01

Great photos

but just 20mhz difference? and vGPU seems abit more?! :D

OBR

03-20-2012, 20:18

its not too good clocker then classic model, maybe under LN2 will be better ... but i dont think so ...

PS. i have it at home too ...

Hondacity

03-20-2012, 20:25

its not too good clocker then classic model, maybe under LN2 will be better ... but i dont think so ...

PS. i have it at home too ...

its not better than the reference 7970?

SF3D

03-20-2012, 21:01

Nice pictures!

Can you check the ASIC Quality with GPU-Z. Thanks!

oc_windforce

03-21-2012, 02:14

Great photos

but just 20mhz difference? and vGPU seems abit more?! :D

Thanks Olesius
I think a bit rise... about 20mhz :D

oc_windforce

03-21-2012, 02:17

Nice pictures!

Can you check the ASIC Quality with GPU-Z. Thanks!

Thanks for infom
I will try

K404

03-21-2012, 13:17

Would MSI like to comment on why the shape of the heatsink makes CF-X bridges a hassle to connect?

Leeghoofd

03-21-2012, 14:20

We asked the same at CeBIT Kenny... I think they have got loads of those in stock and just adapt them to the PCB and parts underneath it... I hope the pot mounting will go flawless...

hokiealumnus

03-21-2012, 14:39

We asked the same at CeBIT Kenny... I think they have got loads of those in stock and just adapt them to the PCB and parts underneath it... I hope the pot mounting will go flawless...

Not if you want to use a backplate...that little extra GPU power thingy would get crushed.

Hazzan

03-22-2012, 13:41

First Run....:D:D

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seem like I have wrong with my setting on CC Panel..:(:(

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Eeky NoX

03-22-2012, 14:16

First one Hazzan :) Did you had issues to mount the pot's bckplate ?

dernettemann

03-22-2012, 19:26

Nice Score Hazzan. Next step 1800Mhz GPU :D

oc_windforce

03-23-2012, 12:32

7970 lightning PBA & Function view :D

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3DMark03 Run
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OBR

03-25-2012, 10:03

i have one BIG problem, no DVI output support Dual-link on this card, i cannot to connect 30" LCD, webpage of product confirms this EPIC FAIL!

Dual Link: NA! WTF how can i to connect 2560x1600 panel? No 30" has DP now ...

Mean Machine

03-26-2012, 11:10

Gunslinger

03-26-2012, 15:02

When is this thing going to hit retail shops?

Massman

03-26-2012, 15:05

I was told just today that the cards were shipped and should be in shops one of these days (2 days max).

Gunslinger

03-26-2012, 17:52

I was told just today that the cards were shipped and should be in shops one of these days (2 days max).

Thanks!

Hazzan

03-27-2012, 01:10

Thanks!

here we go my friend...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127670

OBR

03-27-2012, 11:14

Hazzan

03-27-2012, 13:07

thanks Mean Machine, i have to buy it in shop ... :(

Second strange thing is Unlocked BIOS, i thought Unlocked (no powertune, no ocp, no ccc limits, no aps) in only LN2 BIOs, but it seems Original is unlocked too ... its good, but power consuption of card is brutal because no power tune ...

well in my experience with LN2 mode I can set VGPU more than 1.65 volt without any problem..so I think no more OCP....yess exactly power consumption very brutal ..I agree with that.

sofos1990

03-27-2012, 13:35

OBR

03-27-2012, 14:20

7970 Lightning and DCII haven't convinced me yet!
I mean that I haven't noticed anyone with huge clocks (elmor doesn't count once he is working for MSI).
On the other side many ref. cards have scaled at 1600+ core.

yes, the max limits of Tahiti GPU you can reach with reference card, Lightning is not better on air/on ln2 then reference cards, great features ... but for nothing. And for 600 USD? No way ... this is 3-months King, real champion will be GTX 680 Lightning ... with beefy VRM

thebanik

03-28-2012, 04:22

yes, the max limits of Tahiti GPU you can reach with reference card, Lightning is not better on air/on ln2 then reference cards, great features ... but for nothing. And for 600 USD? No way ... this is 3-months King, real champion will be GTX 680 Lightning ... with beefy VRM

Till the time Nvidia drivers give option to set Tesselation ON/OFF, I doubt GTX680 can really take off among overclockers. It needs insane clocks like Vince's results to break 7970 records.

OBR

03-28-2012, 13:22

Till the time Nvidia drivers give option to set Tesselation ON/OFF, I doubt GTX680 can really take off among overclockers. It needs insane clocks like Vince's results to break 7970 records.

yes, because the are all faked ... with tess OFF

Massman

03-28-2012, 13:25

Lol 'faked'

ME4ME

03-28-2012, 17:03

well.. gotta agree. Tesselation disabled in a benchmark build around tesselation is strange to say the least...

tbh i think this was a mistake by hwbot .. now there is no way back.

matose

03-28-2012, 17:45

Mini-DP to Dual Link DVI. Not too hard.

It's not supplied in the retail package and it costs 109$ on Amazon :)

P.S: Regular miniDP -> DVI adapters shipped with various VGAs work in single-link mode only so it will not work...

P.S 2: Did anyone test with GPU Reactor on and off? From my tests on air I saw little to no difference (maybe stable with less voltage at same clocks but I must test again to confirm)

Massman

03-28-2012, 17:54

P.S 2: Did anyone test with GPU Reactor on and off? From my tests on air I saw little to no difference (maybe stable with less voltage at same clocks but I must test again to confirm)

A local news site also said there was no difference in OC with and without the reactor.

They were testing on air too.

Gunslinger

03-28-2012, 18:08

well.. gotta agree. Tesselation disabled in a benchmark build around tesselation is strange to say the least...

tbh i think this was a mistake by hwbot .. now there is no way back.

I agree 100% ... except that there is no way back, where there is a will, there is a way. :)

Massman

03-28-2012, 18:20

The mistake is mostly of practical nature, not a policy for the sake of the policy.

We asked Futuremark for help, but there was no response.

ME4ME

03-28-2012, 18:27

Massman

03-28-2012, 18:49

I find that a very weak argument. If it had been banned, you'd just search for scores that seem to high and remove them.
Just like scores using mipmap or other weird tricks, hwbot simply spot's and removes. No need to blame Futuremark. :)

Tesselation has different levels, so trying to spot a 'tuned' one would turn into a complete witchhunt.

You might find it weak, but for the people who have to moderate the results it's a big issue.

SoF

03-28-2012, 20:08

Tesselation has different levels, so trying to spot a 'tuned' one would turn into a complete witchhunt.

You might find it weak, but for the people who have to moderate the results it's a big issue.

Totally right - imo there was no way for hwbot to ban "tesslation tweak" except inhuman workload...

...if you feel different, just spent 2500€ / month to hwbot to pay a "full-time-result-moderator"...they might think about it then.

"where there is a will, there is a way"

der8auer

03-28-2012, 20:39

Totally right - imo there was no way for hwbot to ban "tesslation tweak" except inhuman workload...

...if you feel different, just spent 2500€ / month to hwbot to pay a "full-time-result-moderator"...they might think about it then.

"where there is a will, there is a way"

2500€?

Feel free to ban tesselation and I'll do the job :D

Sam OCX

03-28-2012, 22:49

2500€?

Feel free to ban tesselation and I'll do the job :Done mistake and Massman cuts your leg off, deal ? :D

oc_windforce

04-08-2012, 03:15

Some update

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7970 Lightning LN try ( With GPU Reactor)
TEMP : -50C ~-55C
VGPU: 1.55V~1.575V
MEM : 1.7V

I will 11Mark,Vantage retry (with CPU LN2)

http://www.hwbot.org/submission/2272407_oc_windforce_unigine_heaven___xtreme_prese t_(dx11)_radeon_hd_7970_3584.68_dx11_marks

GPU : 1570Mhz MEM:1850
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GPU : 1590Mhz MEM:1850
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GPU : 1550Mhz MEM:1850
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vega05

04-09-2012, 13:02

hello
sorry to bother you
you describe how you can use the reactor
Here I have your same card
but I have not unlocked until the control voltage to the gpu ... 1.60volt
1,35 volt max .....
thanks

OBR

04-09-2012, 19:00

1570? c´mon where are that 1,7-1,8 GHz results?

PS. GPU Reactor is only marketing BS, not working at all ...

Xtreme Addict

04-21-2012, 09:05

From what I heard GPU Reactor gives ~ 15 MHz boost under LN2, next week I will test it with 4x lightning 7970

Gunslinger

04-26-2012, 14:51

Where in the hell is the retail stock?

Mean Machine

04-26-2012, 15:06

Where in the hell is the retail stock?

Sweden. No, wait, it wasn't. Was a few days ago though.

Xtreme Addict

04-26-2012, 16:00

In Poland they are/were in shops, I got last 3 cards

Gunslinger

04-26-2012, 16:06

I saw Ebay Germany had them, at $900+ USD each :p

Xtreme Addict

04-26-2012, 16:30

520$ in Poland + 23% VAT

Mean Machine

04-28-2012, 23:32

Well... Both the USD and the Euro is piss cheap at the moment, at least compared to the SEK. Despite that, the R7970 Lightning costs $800USD or 600 EUR here. I love Sweden, except when I have to buy something. Or other stuff, like for instance living here.

K404

04-29-2012, 00:17

I love Sweden, except when I have to buy something. Or other stuff, like for instance living here.

So, it's still mostly love? :D

Mean Machine

04-29-2012, 00:48

I'm so fed up with this country, I can't even begin to explain it.

|ron

04-29-2012, 11:52

Lol, come to Italy not as a tourist, you'll love Sweden in a few months :D Oh, and you have Viking Metal also :D
'bout the Lightning, still not available here too, but already listed in a few shops at 600euros more or less

Splave

04-29-2012, 14:48

I am in love with this card lol! very hard to find in the USA better off just importing one

sember

05-01-2012, 12:24

What kind of max clocks others got on air? (More importantly, what then they can do with ln2 ;) )

Just got mine card yestarday and on air it can do only 1200MHz on core with 1.175v. More vcore wont help.
Maybe this one does even more with LN2 then, first i try cold water and later this month ln2 hopefully!

Splave

05-01-2012, 13:38

1250 / 1800 on full speed fan for 03

sember

05-01-2012, 16:01

Other drivers didnt help at all. 1180/1800 max or 1200/1700. (12.3 and 12.4 drivers tested so far)
Hopefully it scales even more with temperature. On those runs max temp was around 70c.

Petris ref card did only 1200MHz on air and ~1650MHz on LN2 if i remember right :)

Leeghoofd

05-01-2012, 17:47

I'm so fed up with this country, I can't even begin to explain it.
Pretty sure there is one member here that heartly welcomes you to his "D" country

M.Beier

05-01-2012, 18:20

Pretty sure there is one member here that heartly welcomes you to his "D" country

Deutschland? Ja, klar!
Wilkommen bie Deutschland.

l0ud_sil3nc3

05-01-2012, 19:25

1250 / 1800 on full speed fan for 03

about what mine clocks to max on air, it is not as good as my reference Sapphire card which clocks to 1330/1875 on air and runs much cooler but I am sure the Lightning will be better under cold.

but man it is a pretty card, and so much quieter than the reference designed cooler.

what is the ASIC value on yours Splave?

Splave

05-01-2012, 20:23

havent checked and I dont hold much faith in terms of it :)