zeneffect Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) need wrapper for 3dm11 now it seems too... http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4727491 look @ combined score (its mine btw... just playing around with 7970 seeing whats what) 1200 core 1375 mem 4.4ghz 3770k flip queue size 0 wonder if i can break 13k if i dig deeper... Edited October 23, 2012 by zeneffect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle fester Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Tell futuremark they will fix this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) need wrapper for 3dm11 now it seems too... Ain't nobody got time for that PM me with details, and I can come up with something. Can you also post a comparison score ON/OFF 'tweak' ? Tell futuremark they will fix this This. Now while it's still 'latest', there is a reason why they verify drivers before scores are valid. Edited October 23, 2012 by GENiEBEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 PM me as well so I can contact the right person at FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Ain't nobody got time for that PM me with details, and I can come up with something.Can you also post a comparison score ON/OFF 'tweak' ? This. Now while it's still 'latest', there is a reason why they verify drivers before scores are valid. If they actually have to update the benchmark, it won't help. No one uses the latest version anyway since it gives lower scores than v101. If it's just an update to their validation system, then go for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 v1.0.3 gives higher game tests, lower Physics.... depends on your system which version will be most efficient. It would be nice if FM had version number visible somewhere really obvious, then HWB could (if they wanted) enforce the version that could be used, same as wPrime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeneffect Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) you guys realize that i posted how to do it right? v1.01 btw... though i doubt the version number will change the effect of the exploit. i see alot of missing geometry in 2nd game tests (car + forest) as well as missing geometry in combined score. i will see if this effects nvidia as well tonight. *edit* looks like physics test got a boost too... i ran ultra noob xmp profile @ 2400 with kingston predator 2666 kit. Edited October 23, 2012 by zeneffect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I did notice, thought it's more to it than just that. So what is the default value with latest amd driver (or any other)? (on nvidia rig now so I really can't personally check). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeneffect Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) I did notice, thought it's more to it than just that.So what is the default value with latest amd driver (or any other)? (on nvidia rig now so I really can't personally check). default is 1. set it to 0 and give it a test. this is with the 12.11 driver. when i get home i will send you a detailed guide as to what i did i KNOW its not legal by just watching the screen... though the benchmark isnt "tricked" in anyway... its just the hardware is restricted to the point to where it cant render everything the way it should and skips alot of what is in the game test scenes. tested it last night for a few hours, and its from changin the flip depth. i can get same results with 2-5 but not a high score as 0. Edited October 23, 2012 by zeneffect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeepBeep2 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Does this happen with older drivers and flip queue = 0? 12.11 seems a bit special to me, scores jump way high compared to old drivers, like 15% without any tweaks outside CCC...wonder what they did to get the extra FPS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeneffect Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) works with 12.10 drivers as well. 600pt boost @ 1250 / 1500 12.11 is 1000 points stronger compared to 12.10 @ same clocks above Edited October 25, 2012 by zeneffect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_Jarnis Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) Not sure what the discussion really is about. The result is invalid. Yes, you can do all kinds of things that will give you "big numbers" but if the result, as shown on 3dmark.com, doesn't validate, it is fairly meaningless. There is a lot you can run & submit with 3.54 SystemInfo that will not fly with 4.12... We'll get far more strict with the SI version (and benchmark version) as soon as the new installers are finally out. Good point on the version number on the result screen. I'll see if we can do something about it for this next patch... and as for the next 3DMark result screen, oh it will have [redacted] and [redacted] Now if you have similar cheat score, submitted with v1.03 and SI 4.12 and 3DMark.com doesn't complain (no anomaly box), I'd be interested to see a link. Edited October 26, 2012 by FM_Jarnis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moose83 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Does this happen with older drivers and flip queue = 0?12.11 seems a bit special to me, scores jump way high compared to old drivers, like 15% without any tweaks outside CCC...wonder what they did to get the extra FPS? I tested this driver in 3DMark 11 and Unigine yesterday. my card was Aircooled, the boost is amazing, but card gets much hotter now... And i cant reach my clocks on air, GPU is 20 MHZ slower now, but score 15% Higher, lol... Seems like AMD is buying performance with current Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeneffect Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 (edited) Not sure what the discussion really is about. The result is invalid. Yes, you can do all kinds of things that will give you "big numbers" but if the result, as shown on 3dmark.com, doesn't validate, it is fairly meaningless. There is a lot you can run & submit with 3.54 SystemInfo that will not fly with 4.12... We'll get far more strict with the SI version (and benchmark version) as soon as the new installers are finally out. Good point on the version number on the result screen. I'll see if we can do something about it for this next patch... and as for the next 3DMark result screen, oh it will have [redacted] and [redacted] Now if you have similar cheat score, submitted with v1.03 and SI 4.12 and 3DMark.com doesn't complain (no anomaly box), I'd be interested to see a link. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4767105 only thing orb seems to care about is tessellation. we dont really seem to care about that here on the bot. i can re-run with the bench with tess on to see if it makes an impact. need to re-update to 12.11... 12.10 SUCKS in comparison lol. *edit* rolled back up to 12.11 beta 3 and now i cant run 3dm11. crashes @ gt1 instantly Edited October 27, 2012 by zeneffect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeepBeep2 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I tested this driver in 3DMark 11 and Unigine yesterday. my card was Aircooled, the boost is amazing, but card gets much hotter now... And i cant reach my clocks on air, GPU is 20 MHZ slower now, but score 15% Higher, lol... Seems like AMD is buying performance with current Just lower the GPU clock then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Didn't find the FlipQueueSize in the registry, tried to add it manually here and there and also there somewhere but didn't really change anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Didn't find the FlipQueueSize in the registry, tried to add it manually here and there and also there somewhere but didn't really change anything. XS has a thread about it, google Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 XS has a thread about it, google Dat one ? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?266112-AMD-Flip-Queue-Size-Nvidia-Maximum-Pre-rendered-Frames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeneffect Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 Dat one ? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?266112-AMD-Flip-Queue-Size-Nvidia-Maximum-Pre-rendered-Frames just fyi... im applying it directly to a 3dmark11 profile, not global.... also not editing registry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Yep got it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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