Crew Olesius Posted June 26, 2010 Crew Share Posted June 26, 2010 Hi to all Every day many peoples submit their oc results and join this global league Because they love overclock and working by high freqs but sometimes we see that our friends get banned! because of FAKE result possibility!! it is so easy for admins to hit one key! and ban an overclocker... but it is hard for us to show the result is not fake So, feel free (plz) say your opinions about this result: http://img.hotoverclock.com/viewer.php?file=38204558196965996794.jpg is this Fake? is artifact an unusual issue on hot gpus?? the vga (8800gtx) pictures: http://img.hotoverclock.com/images/98360990684119084626.jpg http://img.hotoverclock.com/images/88045790840223348726.jpg http://img.hotoverclock.com/images/06872056862832658852.jpg http://img.hotoverclock.com/images/32863529916008215939.jpg thank you (sorry for my broken english) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Antinomy Posted June 26, 2010 Crew Share Posted June 26, 2010 Which of two artifacts do you mean - the white line or the value in the GPU-Z die size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Olesius Posted June 26, 2010 Author Crew Share Posted June 26, 2010 Which of two artifacts do you mean - the white line or the value in the GPU-Z die size? white line above the 3dmark01 tab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Olesius Posted June 26, 2010 Author Crew Share Posted June 26, 2010 I'm especially waiting for richba5tard's opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Corleone- Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 (edited) The value of the die size is due to language settings (we use persian as language) and appear sometimes.that is not an artifact. another example http://img.hotoverclock.com/images/18908009956616076898.png edit : another example with a diffrent language http://hwbot.org/community/submission/750163_danmer_3dmark_2001_geforce_9600_gt_80096_marks Edited June 26, 2010 by Don_Corleone- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Why are you waiting for my decision? I do not moderate submissions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Olesius Posted June 27, 2010 Author Crew Share Posted June 27, 2010 (edited) Why are you waiting for my decision? I do not moderate submissions. thank you richba5tard can you reply my question as a hwbot member (not as admin)? So, feel free (plz) say your opinions about this result:http://img.hotoverclock.com/viewer.php?file=38204558196965996794.jpg (link edited) is this Fake? is artifact an unusual issue on hot gpus?? Edited June 27, 2010 by olesius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Interesting. Notice the text is un affected by said artifact. The lower case "P" is still fully visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Olesius Posted June 28, 2010 Author Crew Share Posted June 28, 2010 (edited) Interesting. Notice the text is un affected by said artifact. The lower case "P" is still fully visible. thank you my friend for joining the Discussion do you say the text must be changed? Edited June 28, 2010 by olesius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alriin Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 In the past i also seen (some of my) Screenshots like this in 3DMark and PCMark05... with pointed or lined artifacts. Coloured black or white... i think its a effect of too high overclocking with a Driver who allowed very high clocks. These artifacts are rare but possible, when the clocks too high and you bring the 3DMark (CPU-Z, GPU-Z)-Windows in Position. I search one hour in my Database, but i can't find a good example. :-( My Opinion: no Fake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Olesius Posted June 28, 2010 Author Crew Share Posted June 28, 2010 In the past i also seen (some of my) Screenshots like this in 3DMark and PCMark05... with pointed or lined artifacts. Coloured black or white... i think its a effect of too high overclocking with a Driver who allowed very high clocks. These artifacts are rare but possible, when the clocks too high and you bring the 3DMark (CPU-Z, GPU-Z)-Windows in Position.I search one hour in my Database, but i can't find a good example. :-( My Opinion: no Fake! thank you Alriin I remember your pcmark result by black lines and we had long conv about this issue... (mybe some one deleted it conv and result?!) anyway, i have another question (from everybody) : we have new reporting way in HWBOT.ORG?? Results were reported to the crew, but not through the normal channels. so team capitans do not receive any report pm (and email), is it true? when a submition (s) did not reported in normal way, what could we do?? another note: admins do not ban every one by his first fake result (if we say this result is fake)! so, i want one of the admins (else massman) to reply me (and my team members) our friend (Overclockers) why got banned? http://hwbot.org/community/user/overclockers tnks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Antinomy Posted June 28, 2010 Crew Share Posted June 28, 2010 thank you Alriin another note: admins do not ban every one by his first fake result (if we say this result is fake)! tnks As I know, they do ban with the first result - this happened about a week ago.And won't believe how many should (are to) be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Olesius Posted June 28, 2010 Author Crew Share Posted June 28, 2010 (edited) As I know, they do ban with the first result - this happened about a week ago.And won't believe how many should (are to) be banned Sorry, I must explain beter: if anyone has reported your submition, will you get banned?? (really no!) at this problem we know the results are not fake! we wanted to provide orb valid link for submitions but did not accept it Edited June 29, 2010 by olesius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Antinomy Posted June 28, 2010 Crew Share Posted June 28, 2010 Nope, a reported submission is only a reported submission. If it's really fake then don't complain. Try to show your arguments to the moderators and admin. They are not fans of conversation though sometimes respond and sometimes quickly. But only sometimes. The best we can do - is make our efforts not in cheating but in cheat-proofing. If everyone would share their ideas the competition would only win of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 If you find some other submissions that have this artifact, drop me (or some other mod) a PM or post it here. If it's a bug that happens when you push the cards, then there should be more of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Olesius Posted June 29, 2010 Author Crew Share Posted June 29, 2010 (edited) Nope, a reported submission is only a reported submission. If it's really fake then don't complain. Try to show your arguments to the moderators and admin. They are not fans of conversation though sometimes respond and sometimes quickly. But only sometimes. The best we can do - is make our efforts not in cheating but in cheat-proofing. If everyone would share their ideas the competition would only win of this. I got confused my friend... can you say your opinion about this 3dmark01 result (post #1)? is that fake?? (y/n) be sure, if my friends results were fake we did not pursue this issue for 5-6 months... we did not receive any good reply from admins (massman!) so had to open a topic in forum If you find some other submissions that have this artifact, drop me (or some other mod) a PM or post it here. If it's a bug that happens when you push the cards, then there should be more of these. dear knopflerbruce, do you say we show more artifacted results? (but massman noticed just this result) anyway, can you say us this result is fake or photoshoped? score is ok and correct for that freq tnks edit: i found more detail our email: Anyway, if this result is "questionable" we must receive report or notification, am i right? we did not receive any email from hwbot crews for "overclockers" results... by first questionable result user account must be removed? massman's email: This "white line artifact" is present in many, many screenshots ... our email: if "Overclockers" wanted to submit Fake results, surely worked more with photoshop to got better pics! dear knopflerbruce you say if artifacted results be more its bug! but massman has banned my friend because of more artifacted results massman went R&D team, so we want another admin or moderator attend this issue Edited June 29, 2010 by olesius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Antinomy Posted June 29, 2010 Crew Share Posted June 29, 2010 I can't say certainly. I've seen similar things being a result of high compression JPEG (but the colour is strange for this in this case) or high overclocking. OTOH it can be screen editing done quite lame. As Mr. Scott mentioned, the letter "p" is over the white line and this makes me think it's a API bug that could be caused by video memory. Except that video memory isn't any close to super-frequency, 1100 is not quite high. May be a memory controller in the GPU, but this I leave to experts, I'm lame in this. The letter makes me think it's an API bug like this: http://hwbot.org/community/submission/677611_vediovis_wprime_32m_2x_pentium_3_600mhz_slot_1_100mhz_fsb_2min_53sec_590ms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Turrican Posted June 29, 2010 Crew Share Posted June 29, 2010 http://hwbot.org/community/submission/677611_vediovis_wprime_32m_2x_pentium_3_600mhz_slot_1_100mhz_fsb_2min_53sec_590ms sometimes this happens when you move the cpu-z window over each other and don't "refresh" them. i also had this problem a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Antinomy Posted June 29, 2010 Crew Share Posted June 29, 2010 Some screenshot-making programs can also cause this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 thank you my friend for joining the Discussion do you say the text must be changed? Not at all. Just pointing it out is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 sometimes this happens when you move the cpu-z window over each other and don't "refresh" them. i also had this problem a few times. As have I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Corleone- Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 So as everyone believes its normal to have artifact WHY just my friend get banned??? Who is responsible in HWBOT?? Why he got banned?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Antinomy Posted June 30, 2010 Crew Share Posted June 30, 2010 1. Not everyone - just a couple of guys that shared with their opinion and don't have any rights in means of results moderation. 2. Definitely not me I'm just a participant like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Everyone = 2 None of them say it's "normal". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 The CPUZ artifact is very coomon, and the 3DMark01 artifact that's being discussed here is unique. If this happens at relatively low clocks like in this case, then there should be plenty more of the same type out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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