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Forum: HWBOT Frontpage News 4 Weeks Ago
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Forum: HWBOT Frontpage News 10-23-2017
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Re: HWBOT+Contact

Some flags don't load here. Just a head's up.
Forum: HWBOT Frontpage News 10-23-2017
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Views: 1,658
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Re: H2o vs. Ln2 (US) Breaks Cinebench R11.5 and HWBOT x265 World Records with 2x 28-Core Xeon Platinums

I don't want to sound like an ass, but when the article says "+80% OC", is turbo boost considered overclocking?
Forum: Rules Updates 04-13-2017
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Re: How graphics cards categories are determined or what makes for a new category

I wouldn't rule out memory amount, but I guess that's more of a theoretical question. If there are cards that benefit from more memory in most benchmarks there should be different categories IMO....
Forum: League Discussions 04-13-2017
Replies: 185
Views: 11,314
Posted By knopflerbruce
Re: The line between ambient water and chilled/cold

What sort of fluid would you use for "water" cooling in a siberian winter? Not anything common, I would assume. And aren't heat pipe based coolers bad when the internal fluid is too cold to evaporate?
Forum: League Discussions 04-11-2017
Replies: 185
Views: 11,314
Posted By knopflerbruce
Re: The line between ambient water and chilled/cold

Just a thought: why not just set the bar a certain temperature for whatever cooling medium you use? Not that I have a good suggestion on what that temp should be. EKoolant freezes at -15C, so it's...
Forum: Live 04-08-2017
Replies: 108
Views: 4,968
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Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

I'm aware of that you (maybe I can still say we? ;) inactive mod speaking) keep unlocked cards in the same category, but it would be easier to say "OK, we can't split after 10 years" if you could do...
Forum: Live 04-08-2017
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Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

If it was locked I guess you'd make a new category? With unlocked chips it's sometimes not that consistent, this is like having 2600k and 2700k in the same ranking - which was not an option back...
Forum: Live 04-08-2017
Replies: 108
Views: 4,968
Posted By knopflerbruce
Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

I'm sure what's enabled in the core is completely irrelevant to the scores most of the time...

If there is a stock test that shows negligible performance differences at the same clocks using...
Forum: Live 04-06-2017
Replies: 108
Views: 4,968
Posted By knopflerbruce
Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

I doubt you will find many cases where different bus widths has not been a good enough reason to add more categories. In general the idea is to split when a split is needed, and in the case of 9800...
Forum: Live 04-06-2017
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Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

I suspect you wrote that as a joke, but it's true in more ways. Anyone with a 295 is a victim as they have to go up against GPUs with less sh*t dsabled:p
Forum: Live 04-06-2017
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Posted By knopflerbruce
Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

...and the conclusion being...?

:D

If anything other than "we don't merge different GPUs at HWBot if we can avoid it" you don't listen to your own arguments, even. Don't pay attention to me,...
Forum: Live 04-06-2017
Replies: 108
Views: 4,968
Posted By knopflerbruce
Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

Well, it certainly is possible to tell the difference in this case:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7203/6948854671_ca87e45e27.jpg
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Forum: Live 04-05-2017
Replies: 108
Views: 4,968
Posted By knopflerbruce
Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

In this case the decisions are pretty consistent. There was never a practise to separate cards by brand or factory OC, or memory timngs. However, bus width seems to always require new categories to...
Forum: Live 04-05-2017
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Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

What facts? 9800GTX were split at first, but as it was not possible to verify that any given sub card was done with a (+) or regular model the categories were merged. You can to this day easily...
Forum: Live 04-05-2017
Replies: 108
Views: 4,968
Posted By knopflerbruce
Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

Exactly. They could've made it look like a 6200 Turbocache if they wanted to, I guess. They chose the closest match, which is fair, but it doesn't make it 100% right.

I wonder why people started...
Forum: Live 04-05-2017
Replies: 108
Views: 4,968
Posted By knopflerbruce
Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

The question is what differences. In this case it seems obvious: the added bus width and ROPs make the cards substantially different from any regular GTX 295. Not even ASUS recognizes it as a 295 on...
Forum: Live 04-05-2017
Replies: 108
Views: 4,968
Posted By knopflerbruce
Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

I think I've already mentioned this, but 9800GTX was combined as it was impossble to tell the difference by looking at a screenshot. If this was not the case there would've been two categories to...
Forum: Live 04-05-2017
Replies: 108
Views: 4,968
Posted By knopflerbruce
Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

Well, how biig is the difference between the stock performance of a GTX 1080 with memory from manufacturer X vs Y? 5%? 10%? Sure, I agree with you in principle, but the difference must be...
Forum: Live 04-05-2017
Replies: 108
Views: 4,968
Posted By knopflerbruce
Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

You can easily compare the time frame, and how it's irrelevant how it affects some (or many) users.

By the same reasoning you shouldn't even differ between like a GTX1070 or a Titan X Pascal, or...
Forum: Live 04-04-2017
Replies: 108
Views: 4,968
Posted By knopflerbruce
Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

You mean RGBGA GTX 260 Seizure edition:D
Forum: Live 04-04-2017
Replies: 108
Views: 4,968
Posted By knopflerbruce
Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

I certainly get your point. There was once a decision regarding UCBench as well, that setting a higher thread count was OK. Years later, BOOM, not OK. This affected many more users than the...
Forum: League Discussions 04-04-2017
Replies: 185
Views: 11,314
Posted By knopflerbruce
Re: The line between ambient water and chilled/cold

I can't see why tap water is not OK. Everyone has it (at least in the overclocking scene), and it's even easier to use than regular water cooling setups, which are allowed.

Mother nature isn't a...
Forum: Live 04-04-2017
Replies: 108
Views: 4,968
Posted By knopflerbruce
Re: Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?

The same thing goes for the 260's, but because they really aren't the same models despite having the same name, a new category was made when the 216sp edition was released.
Forum: Live 04-04-2017
Replies: 108
Views: 4,968
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