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Default The line between ambient water and chilled/cold

Hey guys,

I'd like to know your opinions on the subject: The line between chilled water and normal water.

1) Temps or purpose?

Is it about temps which are hard to verify. Or is it about cooling method and purpose by itself?

Example:

A) You live in area where is 30°C and your home is equipped with AC, so you're benching in 20°C. Ambient or chiiled/cold? I say ambient.

B) You live in area where is 24°C and you run AC to 16°C or below with purpose to cool down the air so the temp of water in loop goes down, is that ambient or chilled/cold water? I say chilled/cold

C) You put out rads in winter or open the window to decrease temps below normal temperatures human being lives in for 24/7. Ambient or chilled/cold? I say chilled/cold.

I think weather cooling as ambient is nonsence, its all about purpose and even that some people like low temps for living, I think that no-one really lives in 18°C or below produced by AC for 24/7/365.

Please kindly answer in:

A:
B:
C:

and share additional thoughts.

Enthusiast league is mess really and the situation isnt really clear a there is much headroom to infinite argue what is or isnt chilled/cold.

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Default Re: The line between ambient water and chilled/cold

I think i go with c
besides a good coke whore if you have not put your aio rad in a bucket of ice blocks and or use the ice water in the rad you have not lived.
not sub zero but if you battle warm ambient temps it would help those that do the most with just about any vga or cpu.you dail a ice bucket rig in and you can show up some big money water coolers and even some phase and dice runs

for those that go out in -10f backyards and post pictures, well that really brings up the cool factor and just out of human nature we are willing to forgive an "enthusiast league" bencher and not cast him in a league where every submission is at least dice.
theres not too many naïve overclockers that are into the scene around here, they know the hardware speeds and what temps they run them at.
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Default Re: The line between ambient water and chilled/cold

Not tried good coke yet, I worry I might really like it I run my rads outside, atm 2x MORA 3 PRO, its fun during winter really, but I moved to LN2 already.

The point is, if you run AC just to cooldown the water in loop, if its should be submitted as chilled/cold water. People argues, that its not, because other people just have AC in their home for living or northmen can open the window and they want to have same temp headroom.
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Default Re: The line between ambient water and chilled/cold

I say under 10 ambient is extreme,over that it is ambient,ac at 16 degrees no way is extreme,some people live at 15-16 degrees ambient in room during winter,not big deal.In fact living at under 20 room temp in winter is far better than having 20-22+.
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I say under 10 ambient is extreme,over that it is ambient,ac at 16 degrees no way is extreme,some people live at 15-16 degrees ambient in room during winter,not big deal.In fact living at under 20 room temp in winter is far better than having 20-22+.
The point isn't about line between ambient and extreme but between ambient and apprentice, submitting between water (custom) and water (chilled/cold) while submitting the result.
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No point in continuing this. It is un-monitorable and has been talked about in a half a dozen other threads.
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No point in continuing this. It is un-monitorable and has been talked about in a half a dozen other threads.
This is not about if its or isnt monitorable and if it can't be verified. Let's say I want to play fair, I really do, but I'm not sure if I should submit water (custom) or water (chilled/cold).
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My thought about cooling (water ....but could include air):

there is or not condensation?
No = ambient
Yes = chill
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My thought about cooling (water ....but could include air):

there is or not condensation?
No = ambient
Yes = chill
Good idea. But with AC = less condenzation, it dries the air, and with some airflow I can run very cold water with no condenzation
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This is not about if its or isnt monitorable and if it can't be verified. Let's say I want to play fair, I really do, but I'm not sure if I should submit water (custom) or water (chilled/cold).
Let your conscience be your guide then. If your water is below normal living ambient temps (which IMO is under 20c) then it's chilled.

FWIW, the people that want to be 'fair' are decreasing to minority status.
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