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Considering that hwbot league is a competition and users are targeted between elite, extreme, apprentice, enthusiast, novice and rookie, sounds really unfair that extremely fierce competitions that set many WR can be taken down by h20 with small amount of overclock on gpu.
The solution: submissions made with very new hardware should not be given points for at least a month or two, simple because almost no overclocker can have access to it, and this kind of removes the "shine" of the competition.
The highly disputed world record was taken by someone that made no effort to have that amount of bench points.
Does it looks fair for someone here? I don't think so, unless you're a very selfish guy.
I don't see a problem because every time H2O guys get WRs they get dethroned pretty quick and they have no chance of having a WR until the next piece of new overpriced hardware comes out. I see problems with things like 5960Xs and 6950Xs carrying relatively crap GPU OCs to really high scores. But when someone goes and pays 1200$ so that they can have a WR for the 1/2 months it takes LN2 guys to figure out the GPU I really don't care because it's a short term problem that happens every year every time new hardware releases.

I don't like the current point system but IMO H2O on TITAN XPs getting WRs is a minor issue compared to the ridiculous BS that happens to midrange GPUs users when someone decides to go seal clubbing 3DM score with a 5960X or 6950X and a midrange GPU.
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I don't think so, unless you're a very selfish guy.
OC and benching is, first and foremost, a selfish activity.

What score will *I* get?

What rankings will *I* get after *I* run these benchmarks?

Can *I* beat the score from the other guy?

How much fun am *I* having?


If a brand new part doesn't perform a lot better than the part its replacing, THEN there's a problem. Given how much it costs, I think Titan XP is barely good enough
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OC and benching is, first and foremost, a selfish activity.

What score will *I* get?

What rankings will *I* get after *I* run these benchmarks?

Can *I* beat the score from the other guy?

How much fun am *I* having?

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How much am *I* contributing to my team?

The user must enjoy the activity enough to want to help a team with the collective goal of the activity.
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not for nothing
these are overclocking leagues right?
pretty much it is the cooling defining them

so how come there is no temps for the gpu/and or cpu?
obviously you only need them in the lower 3 league ...core temp msi ab/gpuz we have plenty of them that work well.
or is it you want someone with a chiller to take over as if he was so special (like that bs contest a few years back)so if you beginner guys are so good to be at the top of your league just show the temp even if not mandatory.
unless 0c and under are ok for these leagues?
if you think your score will be slower its ok if everybody has to do it
just saying, its only air/water it cant be too hard to do right?

*DONT MEAN THE GUYS WITH THE RIGS OUTSIDE WITH A PICTURE`
that's being honest you cant knock that
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This is just a competition problem imo, for the rankings that ist irrelevant, you don't get mor points for a score if you submit it with H2O as cooling, instead of phase or chiller. I also used to use radiator in ice in "ambient" competitions, because there was no way of getting to the top without it, temp restrictions would be great, but I think people would just let the system warm up to take screeenshot...
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This is just a competition problem imo, for the rankings that ist irrelevant, you don't get mor points for a score if you submit it with H2O as cooling, instead of phase or chiller. I also used to use radiator in ice in "ambient" competitions, because there was no way of getting to the top without it, temp restrictions would be great, but I think people would just let the system warm up to take screeenshot...


no it has our leagues in order by cooling so it means something to somebody or why have them?

only the top and rookie league is not defined by cooling.

I agree its hard to disprove but why cooling leagues then if they can not even enforce it?
not really hung up about it I just always wondered
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This is a problem just for enthusiast league where you get a few guys benching with chillers,water plus ice,outside at -20 etc.
If it was up to me,for this league only i would allow any cooling as long as you don't go under 0 degrees in idle.
It shouldn't be difficult to integrate a temperature monitoring (in a wrapper like for uningine or aquamark) for the whole duration of the benchmark (xtu).
This will solve many problems,and no,living in Alaska and benching with the rig outside at -40 degrees it's not the same as living in Cyprus and having an ambient over 5 degrees no matter what day ,hour or season (or +50 ) .


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