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Flare X 3200C14 seems really strong.

4GHz 12-11-11-28-1T tight subs without a huge amount of voltage.




Soooooo close to 4133 12-11-11

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Tested 4266 rgb,failed to train 4000 12 12 12 1.85-2V. Also latest 4266 were worser on tight timings compared to 3600c16. Latest 3733 c17 and 3600c15 again were worser,1707 serial week,1701 on pcb,644 week on IC.

On the average from 5 sets of 3600C16 i had way better average than on 7 sets of 4266.Not to mention that 4266 i had 3 kits with one module DOA.

It is what it is , i binned over 100 kits overall and i have 3 modules super good,found about 6 GOOD(4133 12 11 11 Spi 32M wazza) and about 10 4000-4040 which is in my book average.

My advice would be to get a few kits of 3600 17-18-18 or 16 16 16 NON-RGB and keep the best,return the rest.

Sorry to be the deal-breaker for the RGB but the different PCB makes handling a bunny, for instance lots of 55 codes at reboot or cold-startup at the same time when they were memtest-stable,this is PCB to blaim,might be additional noise caused by the leds or motherboards that are not perfect tuned for this.

I stated my own experience , you can believe me or not,this is opinion based as i said 100 kits of b-die G.skill retail tested,completely waste of cash ,time and resources . While you might see other "retail" kits 4200+ superpi stable, you know unicorns do not exist and real-life experience is so harsh
Truly appreciate all the work you've done (and others!) with providing us novices the insight we would not otherwise have (or could afford haha!)!

I come here with a quick question regarding the purchasing of new RAM for my 8700k/Asrock K6 PC. I haven't bought a new PC in 6yrs and ALOT has changed - I've spent the last week or so trying to catch up with regards to single vs dual, Samsung Die-B and latency/MHz. I won't pretend I know anything as vast as the users her, but I'm hoping I've done some of the hardwork so you can help make the final decision.

I've narrowed it down to the following - all are Samsung IC:

1. Single-Rank, 4x8GB (32GB) @ 3200 CL14 - F4-3200C14Q-32GTZ
2. Single-Rank, 4x8GB (32GB) @ 3600 CL16 - F4-3600C16Q-32GTZ
3. Dual-Ranked, 2x16GB (32GB) @ 3200 CL14 - F4-3200C14D-32GTZ
4. Dual-Ranked, 2x16GB (32GB) @ 3400 CL16 - F4-3400C16D-32GTZ

I learnt from here to stay AWAY from RGB (I cancelled my original order). I understand (or have read) that Single-Rank will be quicker effectively, but at 4x8GB with strain on IMC the option to go 2x16 Dual-Ranked maybe be better?

Also the cost of 32GB of Single-Ranked is about $120 USD dearer as opposed to 2x16GB, so if the difference is negligible (I'm no extreme overclocker, I just play Games and the ocassional VM for work) I'll go with Dual-Ranked - unless you advise GREATLY against.

Thanks for your help and looking forward to your answers!
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I have this combo 8700k/Asrock K6 PC
For the moment Single-Rank, 4x8GB (32GB) are not booting with 1T over 3Ghz did't tried lower. Seems coffee lake IMC or Asrock BIOS related tried 1.0/1.1/and 1.11beta all acting the same. As for 2 dimms 4Ghz was also not bootable with 1T 3900 was max i achieved despite running these 4 modules on x299 same board Gaming K6 with 7800x up to 4200 15-15-15-28-280 1T in quad channel. So for the moment get Asus board Maximus if you want good memory OC on Z370 or wait for some fix from Asrock...tested very deeply RTLs IOLs etc and all(actually a couple compared to x299) voltages...this is the situation...Not good for memory overclocking especially B-dies...
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I have this combo 8700k/Asrock K6 PC
For the moment Single-Rank, 4x8GB (32GB) are not booting with 1T over 3Ghz did't tried lower. Seems coffee lake IMC or Asrock BIOS related tried 1.0/1.1/and 1.11beta all acting the same. As for 2 dimms 4Ghz was also not bootable with 1T 3900 was max i achieved despite running these 4 modules on x299 same board Gaming K6 with 7800x up to 4200 15-15-15-28-280 1T in quad channel. So for the moment get Asus board Maximus if you want good memory OC on Z370 or wait for some fix from Asrock...tested very deeply RTLs IOLs etc and all(actually a couple compared to x299) voltages...this is the situation...Not good for memory overclocking especially B-dies...
Thank you for taking to respond - some worrying news there . I ended up ordering the 2x16GB (32GB) @ 3200 CL14 - F4-3200C14D-32GTZKW kit but now I'm worried even more since its dual-ranked!

Will I at least be able to run it at the stock speeds or will we run into issues on the Asrock boards?

This is my first time with a new build in 6yrs so its all very new to me - unfortunately in my country the Asus Hero very expensive compared to the Asrock K6 ($150USD MORE). Will Asrock come through eventually with a 'fix' - this is my first Asrock product so not sure about their track record.

With the kit I bought above (F4-3200C14D-32GTZKW) will this be OK for 'lite' overclocking or should I cancel the order and choose another item from the list above?

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Using 4 Stick Memory better use Asus Maximus with 4 DIMM, because it using T-Topology all slot can clocking almost same, 4 DIMM board that not using that topology will have hard time to boot.
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