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Default Re: Have a single or a few stages for Xeons and titans

Definitely liking where were going.
Dont quite understand how Pifast / superpi 32m would be a fit in such a heavily multithreaded comp.

Any specific socket limitations anywhere? Or bring/run what you got?
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Default Re: Have a single or a few stages for Xeons and titans

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Definitely liking where were going.
Dont quite understand how Pifast / superpi 32m would be a fit in such a heavily multithreaded comp.

Any specific socket limitations anywhere? Or bring/run what you got?
pifast and superpi ar not real demanded. just a idea if someone like to run some singel thread bench

I like the bring what you can bench
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Definitely liking where were going.
Dont quite understand how Pifast / superpi 32m would be a fit in such a heavily multithreaded comp.

Any specific socket limitations anywhere? Or bring/run what you got?
I think socket limitation and maybe max #cpus, like no more than 2 or something, would be a good limitation. Cause if I bench my quad fx it won't be very fun vs lga 2011. I think 2 really good sockets would be lga 771 and 1366, as they have some really nice OC boards, but you can also be fairly competitive even with a "cheap" oem board. For example my supermicro 771 2p board cost me $35 and it was $5 each for 4c xeons. It won't be competitive with my qx 9775s on skulltrail, but it should be really competitive with a pin mod qx9775 on x48 in heavy threaded benches, and will crush it in whycruncher 10b as the board supports 48 gb of ram if you wanted to find 8gb ddr2 non-fb ecc dimms, and actually would probably even be competitive with skulltrail in that one as iirc skull trail only supports 16 gb of fb ecc ddr2.

So like:

Stage 1

LGA 771 GPUPI

Stage 2

LGA 1366 CB15

Stage 3

LGA 2011 x265 1080p or 4k

Stage 4

Either Highest SLI/CF Vantage score or lowest Time Spy SLI/CF score

If we want to test it out with just a private comp we'll be limited to the 1st 3 stages and a 14 day comp, otherwise I think 30 days if it's 4-5 stage comp by hwbot, and 90 days if we do a lot more stages.
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Cooling limits or all ok?
The Original 2011 only or up to and including 2011-3?
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Cooling limits or all ok?
The Original 2011 only or up to and including 2011-3?
I don't think there's a need for cooling limits, and original lga 2011 (socket r) we could also do socket r3, lga 2011-3, for a stage but I think that's not quite old enough for the cpus to be properly "cheap" for anyone. I know I don't want to invest $1k+ per cpu for a 2p 2x 22c system on top of the oc boards being $500, although there may be interest in it. Also might be a good idea to do separate comps per socket. So do the 3 benches on 1366, 771, 2011, etc
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Default Re: Have a single or a few stages for Xeons and titans

Besides intel xeons there are AMD opterons that need their spot in the light too .
Problem with me is, I wouldnt know what bench to match to what socket to appeal to as many as possible.

771
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1366
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939
940
G34
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Dont put limits on cpu count. The whole point of a server comp also includes the fact that multiple cpus can be used
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Besides intel xeons there are AMD opterons that need their spot in the light too .
Problem with me is, I wouldnt know what bench to match to what socket to appeal to as many as possible.

771
2011
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1366
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939
940
G34
1207

Dont put limits on cpu count. The whole point of a server comp also includes the fact that multiple cpus can be used
Yeah, I was more saying limit to the amount that the normal HEDT/Server socket supports. I don't think very many people out of the niche market that is server OC want to mess with LGA 1567 or LGA 2011-1. But I also can agree with opteron stages. I think there's some supermicro g34 boards, even 4p, that allow bclk OC and there are supposedly even some unlocked es opterons. Also don't forget socket f/fx (FX is a different socket but we should throw it in with socket f as there is literally 1 board using it) and c32. The nice thing about AMD servers as well is their arches have remaing bclk OC friendly while sandy bridge and newer really aren't. So even if most opterons are locked they can pretty much all be OC'd.

As for what benches I think that if we do whycruncher 10b then we should do it on a platform that's not too hard to have at least 40gb of ram, so pretty much anything ddr3 should have no issue. And the encoding benches that use newer instructions like x265 might be better to use on newer arches, or still on old arches to show how much you can brute force it with a bunch of cores to still compete with a 7700k. Other than that I think as long as it's well multithreaded and scales all the way to as many core as are possible on the platform any bench should be good on any platform.

Also it may be a good idea to dedicate a comp to a platform, so if someone doesn't already have a platform, ex. I don't have g34 yet but wouldn't mind picking one up to compete, then they only have to worry about a single platform. Also you get more of a chance to learn the platform than if it's something different every stage. For example team comp I pretty much had to learn lga 1155 in an hour or 2 and try to get a good score out of 2 benches due to my procrastibagging/benching everything else first, however if 1155 was all I had to do the whole comp then I might've had a better OC and learned more of the platform.
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Default Re: Have a single or a few stages for Xeons and titans

So then do we want to try to get something officially organized for a server comp? I assume it'd have to be after the end of December as we've got Rog Comp and Country Cup up to then.
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Default Re: Have a single or a few stages for Xeons and titans

Yes we do want to get this official, but as mentioned best set for after ROG & Country Cup.
I really wanted to represent as many sever sockets as possible, but there is no way this go around. Maybe next comp we could do all the older platforms like slot-1/2, socket-8 etc but for this go at it lets see how many will play

No cooling limitations. A pain to verify anyway.


Stage 1:
SINGLE SOCKET (0ne CPU)


939 (opterons only) SP1
G34 x265 1080P
775 (xeon only) PiFast
2011 x265 4K

STAGE 2:
DUAL SOCKET (2 CPUs)

940 = 3DM03 (any single GPU)
G34 = 3DM06 (any single GPU)
1207 = 3DM11 (any single GPU)
771 = Fire Strike (any single GPU)
1366 = Vantage ( no limit on GPU count)
2011 = GPUpi (no limit on GPU count)

STAGE 3
TRIPLE SOCKET (3 CPUs)

Any socket that can run 3 CPUs = GPUpi 1B for CPU

Stage 4
Quad Socket (4 PUs)

1207 CB15
G34 y-cruncher 10b
2011 GeekBench Multi-Core
1567 Wprime1024

Stage 5
Bring what you got, no number of cpu limits any server socket(s) goes

1: GPUpi 100m
2: RealBench HWbot
3: CB11

I'm not good at knowing what 3D bench works best in conjunction with what socket, hope I got it.
If its good with you guys, (i'll wait a few days first ) I'll speak with Websmiles to see if this could be setup.

I hope we can come together to get this going.

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Yes we do want to get this official, but as mentioned best set for after ROG & Country Cup.
I really wanted to represent as many sever sockets as possible, but there is no way this go around. Maybe next comp we could do all the older platforms like slot-1/2, socket-8 etc but for this go at it lets see how many will play

No cooling limitations. A pain to verify anyway.


Stage 1:
SINGLE SOCKET (0ne CPU)


939 (opterons only) SP1
G34 x265 1080P
775 (xeon only) PiFast
2011 x265 4K

STAGE 2:
DUAL SOCKET (2 CPUs)

940 = 3DM03 (any single GPU)
G34 = 3DM06 (any single GPU)
1207 = 3DM11 (any single GPU)
771 = Fire Strike (any single GPU)
1366 = Vantage ( no limit on GPU count)
2011 = GPUpi (no limit on GPU count)

STAGE 3
TRIPLE SOCKET (3 CPUs)

Any socket that can run 3 CPUs = GPUpi 1B for CPU

Stage 4
Quad Socket (4 PUs)

1207 CB15
G34 y-cruncher 1b
2011 GeekBench Multi-Core
1567 Wprime1024

Stage 5
Bring what you got, no number of cpu limits any server socket(s) goes

1: GPUpi 100m
2: RealBench HWbot
3: CB11

I'm not good at knowing what 3D bench works best in conjunction with what socket, hope I got it.
If its good with you guys, (i'll wait a few days first ) I'll speak with Websmiles to see if this could be setup.

I hope we can come together to get this going.
Pretty good list, just 1 recommendation, for Whycruncher do 10b as the ram requirements for 1b are kinda lame (4 GB) as opposed to 10b's proper server ram requirement (40gb). Especially on 4p it shouldn't be too much to ask the competitors to run a boatload of ram.

Other than that my only question is does pin mod qx9775 count as a xeon?
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