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Why? If there's only a few results in the category.......

Because of kinda random categories like the (AMD) 3x CPUs, it's *almost* the same as the hardware ranking. That's not popular, so it only gets a few hardware points. Why should a category with 292 results be worth 60 global points? The PheII 555 only gets 5.8 hardware points


I have the Unigine DX9 world record and that category has 626 results.... zero ponts. It's a world record isn't it?

(I don't want points added for Unigine DX9, but I hope you see my point)
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so, now we're coming back to CPU binning, aren't we?
found a good GT => benched 03/05/06/AM3 with 2/3/4way on air, got much higher globals than before
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The points don't define how good someone is 100% accurately; it's merely an estimation using some algoritm that weighs in the amount of competition and the position in a certain category. The idea of "good" is very subjective and everyone has a different opinion about it. For you, "good" may mean having a Single-GPU record, for others "good" might mean scoring top positions on various platforms and architectures.

Let's take some examples of those so-called "bunnypoopty" records:

- Single core Wprime 1024M record (sempron over 6.1GHz)
- Kingpin's 12xCPU Wprime32M record (2 cpus at 5.6G+)
- SF3D's 3xGPU 3DMark11 score (3 GPUs over 1350MHz core)
- Mtech's 4xCPU PCMark05 record (overall record)

Each of these scores have some level of difficulty here, but are awarded too little points because there's no competition in the ranking. If someone would try to beat any of these scores, it would take a lot of time and effort to get there. Now, if someone were to be the holder of these 4 records, it would give that person ~ 240p.

Do you honestly believe that, for instance, Single GPU 3DMark06 + Single GPU 3DMark05 (together ~320p) is actually underrated in comparison to those 4 other records?

How much importance you attributed to a certain ranking depends on how you personally feel about benchmarks, how the benchmarks behave (cpu-limited 3D benchmarks), etc. We all know how the Sandy Bridge has affected the benchmarking scene or how Gulftown affected the scene.
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people won't aim for those categories if they want points ... they'll just go for the multiCPU server access and Gulftown binning
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You're missing the point Pieter .
If I have 6 x "bunnypoopty WR" and you have 3 x "single-card WR" we will have the same points, this makes me as good as you?!
Even the "bunnypoopty" WRs are hard to beat (unless we're talking about 24x wprime and stuff like that). It's not fair that you can buy some random gulftown and a gtx580, ln2 both, and get plenty of globals in all 3dmarks with no effort, whereas you get only a handful of boints when submitting a score that's actually really good - for example a wprime 3x gold cup. Being top 10 is quite easy in some of those rankings, but making it to top 3 requires alot of skill and effort, so it's a good thing that such submissions will receive an amount of boints that shows the quality of the result.

Edit: this shouldn't apply to ALL rankings, only where you can actually overclock - we don't have to give 60 boints to a server ran at stock, that's just silly. But anything up to and including 12x CPU - yes
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question by example...for this thread.

e8600 wprime 2core 1st place, 60pts?
i5-670 wprime 2core 1st place, 60pts?

those are two different classes imo.
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question by example...for this thread.

e8600 wprime 2core 1st place, 60pts?
i5-670 wprime 2core 1st place, 60pts?

those are two different classes imo.
I don't think this change is about the core/thread discussion, so I assume we still count cores, and nothing else => both are considered to be dual cores, and therefore 2x.
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As we speak, we're re-calculating all the submissions on our test server with adjusted TPP algoritms. The updated algoritm has fixed the TPP Global bug and has some additional weight finetuning.
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any sneak-peak/ preview of top 100 overclockers?
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