HWBoints Adjustment #1: 3D WR Bonus

[Massman]

Originally Posted by SoF

And 10th get's 20 points while first gets 150 - no doesn't sound good for me to balance anything, before doing strange things like that better leave it out.

A steep curve is needed to differentiate those who actually break the world record by going all LN2 from those who want to come close only using air vga's.

Absolute WR = absolute WR.

[SoF]

I got the point and I think it would unbalance what you have just tried to bring into the overclocker's league with rev3. The bonus system seems heavy and so you need the big cards again for the first 10-20 places.
My initial complain was about no even ranking for 1/2/3/4 GPUs, e.g. giving each category 1-200 places (or 1-500 for famous) for global and everybody get's (fixed) points according to his place or by percentual computation from the first rank (WR = 100%).

[SF3D]

Current point system is taking too much away from WR attempts. For example, when I did my 3DM01 runs last summer and got 135K, it was extremely hard work and took time and money from my pocket. In this current system you will get 14,7 points with that score and it is not fair at all.

Yuo can use ~5.5GHz E8600 and stock single GPU vga near stock speed to get same amount of global points as my 01 run: Ranking number 110. http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=847873

That is not fair at all, if you ask me.

This new suggestion Massman made here is to give some bonus for ultimate WR attempts. I think this needs to be done. This way game will be really equal to everyone joining the overclockers league.

[r1ch]

Originally Posted by SF3D

Current point system is taking too much away from WR attempts. For example, when I did my 3DM01 runs last summer and got 135K, it was extremely hard work and took time and money from my pocket. In this current system you will get 14,7 points with that score and it is not fair at all.

I take nothing away from your previous score, we've all spent time, money and effort getting scores that have now lost a lot of points, but that was always going to happen with the change.

You have got to give the current system time to settle down.

If you benched a GTX 280 or 285 in the same way you did before, you would score lots of points.

We should be looking into the future, seeing what is the best for future scores, not what makes past score 'fair'.

[K404]

Originally Posted by SF3D

Current point system is taking too much away from WR attempts. For example, when I did my 3DM01 runs last summer and got 135K, it was extremely hard work and took time and money from my pocket. In this current system you will get 14,7 points with that score and it is not fair at all.

Yuo can use ~5.5GHz E8600 and stock single GPU vga near stock speed to get same amount of global points as my 01 run: Ranking number 110. http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=847873
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Points dont make or break achievements though. People still recognise the work you've done. Like you said... the work was done last year. Who remembers 16K in 3D03 or 40K in 01? Those achivements are worth nothing now, points-wise, but guys still pushed hella-hard to get there first.

[cowgut]

something has to be done with this idk what thuo...you have to reward the top scores in each bench...its a wr for gosh sakes.
it has to be fair for the pro's too.

[SF3D]

r1ch - You missed my point a bit I guess. There will be always new WR's with new hardware. Only the highest score in some benchmark is world record. Not some single GPU run, no matter how good it is. (Unless real WR can be taken with single GPU)

These new WR's have to get some bonus. That is the "fair" part in there.

My example was too personal and that score is done last summer, so it wasn't good for it. I mean, that this change is needed for the future. That way game will be fair for all type of users.



K404- That is a good point. I think old records should be in some "museum of overclocking", but I think we don't have time to make such a thing. It would be cool to see, who was the first to break 1GHz barrier and under 1 minute in Superpi 1M.

I did not ment my post that way, cause I am looking in to the future.

[Massman]

Originally Posted by SoF

I got the point and I think it would unbalance what you have just tried to bring into the overclocker's league with rev3. The bonus system seems heavy and so you need the big cards again for the first 10-20 places.
My initial complain was about no even ranking for 1/2/3/4 GPUs, e.g. giving each category 1-200 places (or 1-500 for famous) for global and everybody get's (fixed) points according to his place or by percentual computation from the first rank (WR = 100%).

That would mean that we litterally equalize "effort/skill" and "able to buy hardware" in terms of points and reward. I'm sure that's not how any ranking should be.

[TerraRaptor]

As far as I'm unable to spend much for WRs in nearest future, I won't envy they can - even money they put in hobby are worth of this bonus. I like others to take dizzy heights - that is cool!) Hope me to be one of them. I think guys from top-50/100 should speak on this adjustment.

[Warrior_oF_Byte]

I Vote yes, but the first position have to earn 100boints, because 150 is too much!